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Old 09-10-2009, 02:00 AM   #193
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Re: NBA Live 10 Exclusive Video: Czarisode 1: Season 2

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O.M.G! I got the game! Oh! I'm niiiice! Lol...

I love how the fact that the dribble moves are so quick, you don't have that moment of lag before you start your drive after sizing up. You can really see it on that last D Rose drive. Dribble...explode. Wooo.

Hey Czar, how is the contact under the rim? Mo Williams and Brons drives were both contested at the beginning of the vid, but on the last three, the defenders jumped, but none of them seemed to create any contact. Same too with the penetration in general...there seems to be little resistance from defenders trying to defend the layup...they just run alongside, and then jump and swipe at the end. Can you give us the scoop on collision detection? Any grabbing, riding, or any other contact on drives? Is the on-ball defender out of the play completely once he's beaten?

Thanks again, man...
HmcCoy its not perfect but there can be a LOT of contact when your going to the basket... So much so that when you catch the d out of position and your able to break your man off the dribble it gets very exciting because you want to make the right move since it doesn't or didn't to me happen every play down..

the games were so intense that it wasn't like i was like Ohoh i think i'm getting to the basket too much ( again i didn't have months to play just 2.5 days so after a ton of play this could be different)

It was like whew we needed that .. if you know what I mean. I at no time felt like it was an issue. In fact count the number of dunks you see in these videos especially tomorrow... practically every highlight I captured will be used in the video you saw or the one i will post tomorrow. And note the teams on the floor when these defensive "breakdowns" happen...

individual momentum really is a game changer though because tonight you might have a stiff guarding your main player and your cutting him up and depending on the help d ratings of his teammates you my have a lot of layups tonight. But tomorrow night your playing a guy with great lateral quicks and tremendous team help defense so that will be different. But As I said there is some randomness in there. The cpu play much more human like (my opinion only) so even the best defense breaks down but you MUST take advantage of those opportunities because for ME it wasn't an all game easy score experience....

it will take a TON of gameplay hours for me to "figure" this game out because of the differences each matchup brings...gain just my opinion from a short time playing and capturing the game.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:02 AM   #194
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Telestrator, you gotta give us a vid on Defense, man. No one has told us how the defensive system even works yet. That's part of the reason people are asking crazy questions based off of a highlight vid(!).

Just the idea of complaining about D in a highlight vid is bizarre.

Love the way that reactionary cross looked. You can see Z-Bo try to adjust before realizing he's out of the play. That's some slick stuff.
I really wish I would have thought of that when i was there Born.. truly It would have been so timely to do so.... hopefully they are able to send me the game early and i can get crackin on that before the game ships... would absolutely love to show what happens the other uncaptured plays...
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:04 AM   #195
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Was the computer breaking you down with dribble moves?
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you caught me AD2084 I had a section on there about moves on the run that is where the spin comes in by holding the right stick up.... what happened was some of captures had too many players in the gym in the way and you couldn't see my examples.... by the time i saw that i was already back home so we had to skip that part of the vid. I figured I could cover it later as its only a few moves...
LOL all good man, I'm sure you will be dropping it in a video soon so no sweat there. Awaiting that next episode man, it's really looking good this year for Basketball fans around the world.
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Great Video and lots of info which is good! One question Czar, do the player models look right in terms of height and proportional to their environment? I feel as Lebron should looker taller and heavier, as I have never really like Live's player models (they look like 12 year olds, lol). Mcgrady has some long legs in real life but in the video he looked like 5'11 instead of 6'8! Does anybody else feels like that or maybe I'm used to body types in 2K franchise.

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Arod Czar is not a graphics major by any stretch of the imagination however i HATED live 09 player models... Live 10 is SOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better. everyone generally looks correct proportion wise to me go back and check out that blog by Santos where they break down player models... The look great to ME. very subjective subject though you know... I still say that no video or screen shot can do this game justice you must see it in HD for yourself...

The closest i have seen was still in person off of the live capture system and that was off tape captured at 60 fps... my home card only does 29...
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Was the computer breaking you down with dribble moves?
The computer is Nice i have a couple examples in tomorrows show... it will have you asking did they really just do that to me....
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HmcCoy its not perfect but there can be a LOT of contact when your going to the basket... So much so that when you catch the d out of position and your able to break your man off the dribble it gets very exciting because you want to make the right move since it doesn't or didn't to me happen every play down..

the games were so intense that it wasn't like i was like Ohoh i think i'm getting to the basket too much ( again i didn't have months to play just 2.5 days so after a ton of play this could be different)

It was like whew we needed that .. if you know what I mean. I at no time felt like it was an issue. In fact count the number of dunks you see in these videos especially tomorrow... practically every highlight I captured will be used in the video you saw or the one i will post tomorrow. And note the teams on the floor when these defensive "breakdowns" happen...

individual momentum really is a game changer though because tonight you might have a stiff guarding your main player and your cutting him up and depending on the help d ratings of his teammates you my have a lot of layups tonight. But tomorrow night your playing a guy with great lateral quicks and tremendous team help defense so that will be different. But As I said there is some randomness in there. The cpu play much more human like (my opinion only) so even the best defense breaks down but you MUST take advantage of those opportunities because for ME it wasn't an all game easy score experience....

it will take a TON of gameplay hours for me to "figure" this game out because of the differences each matchup brings...gain just my opinion from a short time playing and capturing the game.
Thanks, mang. Seems like the layups don't have to feature as much collision, since the on-ball D is tighter. Nice.

Thanks for breaking that down, bro.
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O.M.G! I got the game! Oh! I'm niiiice! Lol...

I love how the fact that the dribble moves are so quick, you don't have that moment of lag before you start your drive after sizing up. You can really see it on that last D Rose drive. Dribble...explode. Wooo.

Hey Czar, how is the contact under the rim? Mo Williams and Brons drives were both contested at the beginning of the vid, but on the last three, the defenders jumped, but none of them seemed to create any contact. Same too with the penetration in general...there seems to be little resistance from defenders trying to defend the layup...they just run alongside, and then jump and swipe at the end. Can you give us the scoop on collision detection? Any grabbing, riding, or any other contact on drives? Is the on-ball defender out of the play completely once he's beaten?

Thanks again, man...
one last thing is that eveyone is different this year... your really going to have to see for yourself.. better defenders have more bump and grind animations they put on you and have more success with them even when YOU control them....

But if they don't have the lateral footspeed your going to beat the brakes off them If they don't play you correctly ... once they adjust you can't just iso iso iso all day you HAVE to take the J or pass otherwise you will get that dharris charge...

so someone could get the game and play against a poor defender and feel there aren't enough contact animations and someone else could be playing a tuff individual and team defender and be like hey there are too many... It's not as cut and dry as years past because of the individualization we have asked for.. But that requires more from us to be able to recognize that one bad defensive play does not mean the game is broken.. If I told you there was a game where 80 out of 100 possessions had great defense who wouldn't want to play that game ? (those are made up number fresh from my buttocks where I pulled them out)
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