Attention: Tweaking Specific Sliders breaks the game

[fearwhatnow]

After testing all the sliders sets here in OS and messing with certain sliders i've come to important conclusions that i think could help all the slider makers.
First of all set the FG%.This is down to everyone's skills so we move on to foul settings.
Charging:100
Blocking:75
Reaching:80
Shooting:75
Loose:100

Commit fouls for user must be 100 and cpu default 50.
Now sliders that MUST be untouched:
Backdoor cuts: Lowering this below 40 will break the flow of the game and the cpu offense movement.I know everyone tries to reduce PiP but setting this to 10 or 0 makes cpu offensively stall and predictable.

Sliders that don't break the flow of the game:
Putback,Help Defense(Set it at 75 for both),Dunks in traffic,Alley oops


Ok.Update guys.After really big testing i'll finally release a set that i am sure you'll all appreciate.Sliders with explanation:

Sliders For All-Star:
OFFENSE
Inside Shot Success - 39 / 39
Close Shot Success - 40 / 40
Mid-Range Shot Success - 45 / 45
Three-Point Shot Success - 48 / 48
Layup Success - 45 / 45
Dunk In Traffic Success - 15 / 15

DEFENSE
Help Defense Strength - 75 / 75

ATTRIBUTES
On-Ball Defense - 50 / 100 (Oh yeah.100!Works great with on-ball steals.If you are struggling decrease it)
Defensive Awareness - 50 / 100 (Cpu advantage to make the game more challenging)

TENDENCIES
Take Inside Shots - 50 / 35 (average with coach settings)
Take Close Shots - 50 / 40 (same as above)
Take Mid-Range Shots - 50 / 55
Take Three-Point Shots - 50 / 50
Attack The Basket - 50 / 50 (if you want you can raise cpu)
Throw Alley-Oops - 25 / 25
Commit Fouls - 100 / 65
On-Ball Steals - 50 / 0 (Yes.ZERO.That's where all the problems with easy penetration inside by user start.Cpu always tries to steal on ball leaving space for the user to drive.Even at 5 this happens.At 0 it's perfect and with cpu on-nall defense at 100 the inside scoring problem is FIXED)
Backdoor Cuts - 50 / 50 (You can bring this to 40.NOT lower)
Commit Fouls - 100 / 65
Throw Alley-Oops - 25 / 25

Game speed : 45

[ddaugherty]

i am not a ***** by no means, and i love this game....so if you leave everything u think that the games plays good.....what level are you playing on if you do?? other than the shooting sliders..which i agree should be toned down....but do you not see players that are supposed to go to the whole get contested at the whole and kick out for a wide open 3 everytime? and the computer settling for jumpers and 3's all the time.. these are my 2 biggest gripes of the game IMO..i want true "sim"....if this is the case i wanna know what level you are using..cause i am going to start usin it

[PuntNL]

How did you came up with these findings? I have not seen anyone have problems with the backdoor cut slider at 25 or lower. Playmaker has it, Bizcanos, me...

[Keaton]

Sorry, touched all these sliders and it made the game better.

[Jukeman]

He's right...somewhat

[PuntNL]

I agree that adjusting the tendencies too much will mess up the gameplay. I have set boundaries for my self to not lower tendencies below 25 and don't higher them above 75 (except or alley-oops). And have most of them adjusted in the range of 45-55. Only as for Backdoor cuts this really looks like a problem. You really think I should keep it at at least 40? 25 will be to low?

[fearwhatnow]

I play at All-Star and Superstar level - Game Speed 45/12min qrtrs
Even Superstar level this year is playable with default sliders and these changes:
Inside Success: 39/39
Close Success: 40/40
Mid Success: 45/45
3pt Success: 48/48
Layup: 45/45
Dunk in Traffic:15/15

Help D: 75/75
Alley Oops: 25/25
Commit Fouls: 100/50 with the foul settings in 1st post

I've been a slider maniac myself last year and always try to find the best REALISTIC stats for my game.Even 4-5 assists or 3 point attempts above average drive me crazy as i want accurate stats all the time.
Let's be more specific as i see there are people in doubt:
Backdoor cut works alongside with inside/close/mid range shooting.Example:Inside at 30,close at 30,mid at 75,backdoor cut at 10 or 0.This is total disaster for cpu offensive movement.Set it now and start a game.What is happening?Cpu offense is STALL.There is no movement off-ball.No one cuts inside, no one takes screens,superstars and even Centers shoot from mid range.This gives of course the feeling that there is mid range play and no PiP but ruins post game, inside drives and kicks out, fouls are nowhere to be found for user players, cpu plays are predictable etc..
Now set them to default 50.You can see great movement by cpu offensively, screens, off-dribble shooting, drives, fouls.
I think Pared also believes that game is better with default slider.
I'm not trying to convince anyone.Maybe this year NBA2k suits with the type of basketball i like to see and play and it's more than obvious that every person has a different style of playing the game.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Quote: Originally Posted by fearwhatnow

Set it now and start a game.What is happening?Cpu offense is STALL.There is no movement off-ball.No one cuts inside, no one takes screens,superstars and even Centers shoot from mid range.This gives of course the feeling that there is mid range play and no PiP but ruins post game, inside drives and kicks out, fouls are nowhere to be found for user players, cpu plays are predictable etc.. Now set them to default 50.You can see great movement by cpu offensively, screens, off-dribble shooting, drives, fouls. I think Pared also believes that game is better with default slider.

Very interesting. I'll try these out tonight.