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Old 01-22-2017, 01:28 PM   #1
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"Athleticism" Attribute

I think if we had just a regular "Athleticism" attribute alongside the other stuff like speed, acceleration, etc. than it would make the game look and feel more balanced. You look at guys like Russell Westbrook and Blake Griffin who don't have very high vertical leaps, but they're just so explosive and athletically gifted that they just play so physical and "athletically". Guys like Russell Westbrook, Blake Griffin and Deandre Jordan would have very high "Athleticism" attributes and guys like Ricky Rubio, Kosta Koufos, John Stockton, Nikola Jokic and Zaza Pachulia would have a lot lower "Athleticism" attributes. I don't really know how to explain it, but it was just a thought I had.

Edit: Sorry everyone for the confusion but what i meant here was a rating for how explosive a player is

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Old 01-23-2017, 02:18 AM   #2
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No. Please, no. Ratings should be becoming less vague, not more vague.
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Old 01-23-2017, 08:29 AM   #3
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No. Please, no. Ratings should be becoming less vague, not more vague.


What do you mean by less or more vague
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:40 AM   #4
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"You look at guys like Russell Westbrook and Blake Griffin who don't have very high vertical leaps..."

Are we talking about Russell Westbrook from Oklahoma City and Blake Griffin from the Clippers?
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Old 01-23-2017, 12:58 PM   #5
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"You look at guys like Russell Westbrook and Blake Griffin who don't have very high vertical leaps..."

Are we talking about Russell Westbrook from Oklahoma City and Blake Griffin from the Clippers?


Yes. They both have less than 36 inch verticals. Not very high. At least not to the degree of a guy like Harrison Barnes who has a 44 inch vertical.

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Old 01-23-2017, 02:12 PM   #6
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No. Please, no. Ratings should be becoming less vague, not more vague.
exacty. they already have to many things like "intangibles" to manipulate ratings to get the desired overall. it would be better if we knew exactly what did what so players could be adjusted. But until they figure out someway to create rotations, and create value for FA, trades, draft, contracts, etc without relying on overall so much, we shall have vague ratings to be manipulated.
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No. Please, no. Ratings should be becoming less vague, not more vague.
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Old 01-23-2017, 02:43 PM   #8
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What do you mean by less or more vague
The vague ratings (i.e. the aforementioned "Intangibles" rating) are simply not quantifiable. You can easily determine shooting ratings based on FG%/FT%, you can easily determine rebounding, steal, passing and blocking ratings by statistics. Speed and jumping are also easily quantifiable, but "Athleticism" is not.

It would be an arbitrary ranking based on the "eye test" and who knows what it would effect? You said it yourself when you said you didn't know how to explain it. No one would know how to explain it, meaning that no one would know what it would do or how it manifested itself in game.
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