NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

[Oldhead80]

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkWilliam

There's humble and then there's the 2K Team it appears. They have the market. They know they have the market. And they don't mind taking jabs at said market knowing it's going to pay for their product anyway. And they have my money. I can say that with 100% confidence. I just wish EA could inject some humility back into them.

It doesn't have anything to do with humility. For some reason you guys think you can berate, belittle and disparage 2K employees and developers and that is somehow OK. There are posters who take it personal when a detail is missed or isn't addressed. Some of y'all need to log off and go outside man. Even 23...23 has made it VERY known what his issues and grievances are from a visual and audio standpoint, but he doesn't take this stuff personal. I can tell 23 is a grown man with a life outside of playing a basketball video game...some of y'all though....

[lvnba]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

Czar is one of the most humble guys on the team...but he's human. Thats why the tweet is still there...his team knows this and has his back.. Its incredibly weak to me that guys (not you) feel like they can call these dudes everything under the sun and then want to act like their feelings are all hurt when guys react. Very weak. I'd personally have too much pride for that. I also realize that there are guys that were simply providing feedback that get caught in the crossfire- but those people arent the ones that caused his reaction- guess Czar has earned the benefit of the doubt from me..

Even though everyone has a right to be human, and I'm a Czar supporter like you, once you start linking your personal and professional persona, you are subject to criticism for what you say.

When you want to sell a product, you usually need to make an effort in order to get customers to like you. In that sense, laughing about your customer, or even remotely looking like you're doing it, is heavily punished.

When you are not afraid of losing your customer, is only common sense and politeness that protects the customer, and in this case, as human as it is, they lost it a bit. And we're entitled to criticise it.

[Vni]

Czar only been a dev for 2K for like 2 years, he's been part of this comunity for ages. He just tweeted that like he would have 2 years ago.

Same for LD. The guy spends a lot of time with the community, he's a gamer aswell, he probably just felt like he could make a harmless joke without people going all politically correct on him. I hate that all that is a thing seriously, who cares. I feel more respected when people feel confortable enough to just be themselves.

[23]

Believe me when i say this.

DaCzar puts it down for us if no one else does he truly does. Thats not to say he's the only one but his heart is there wanting the best on both sides.

Hes a dev but that guy is still a community relation dude through and through.

I think he should relax and enjoy his break but that brings me to my next point.

He still spends time educating people on the development process and what it takes to make a complete balanced game and if you listen to him you'll have way more respect for the process.

He even repeats a lot of the stuff to new people every single year...that man has earned a gold respect card from the community.

I took up web design this year at a local California university and the amount of coding can be unreal.

Cant imagine doing that all in 9 months fixing the bugs etc and still having a top brand product.



One thing i haven't noticed is anyone defending ronnie though lololol.

[Vni]

Who cares about Ronnie2K though ? He's so easy to avoid I don't even get it. I never even hear/read about him. He's so easy to just ignore.

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vni

Who cares about Ronnie2K though ? He's so easy to avoid I don't even get it. I never even hear/read about him. He's so easy to just ignore.

Nobody

However hes the lead markering guy in front and he was clapping back at people in the said discussion.

Now instead of laughing at people, maybe he needs to realize that its a discussion that needs ro be had instead of saying "oh YOU GUYS cant make up your mind"

Hes the main one claiming theyre ahead of schedule but is the cant tell if a model looks too bulky or not...especially in that jimmy butler screen.

I never see this guy going to bat for the customers.

Its not one extreme or another, its a legit point that was made...the guy looked fat and i could explain exactly why for him.

Unfortunately hes been far into himself too much since he got there in 09 but that's the guy up front like i said.

Anyway none of this matters after this week i guess and i had no part in that meltdown but I'm not going to let dudes bash the dev team because to be honest theyre the reason we keep coming back and they do listen to us.

By the way if i didnt say it THE DEV TEAM AND THE QUALITY THEY PUT OUT IS THE REASON 2K IS GREAT AND WHY WE ARE INTERESTED IN THE GAME AND WANT INFO

THE DEV TEAMS WORK IS WHY I BUY 2K

I GET EXCITED BECAUSE OF THE DEV TEAMS WORK

ITS THEM IMPLEMENTING THEIR IDEAS RIGHT THAT GET ME HYPE

not cheesy hashtags and name dropping

[WISports]

I only really have issue with the art department...or whoever is in charge of getting player models correct. And getting uniform/court colors/skin tones correct. Those things especially should not be that hard.

[KingTocco]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

Nobody However hes the lead markering guy in front and he was clapping back at people in the said discussion. Now instead of laughing at people, maybe he needs to realize that its a discussion that needs ro be had instead of saying "oh YOU GUYS cant make up your mind" Hes the main one claiming theyre ahead of schedule but is the cant tell if a model looks too bulky or not...especially in that jimmy butler screen. I never see this guy going to bat for the customers. Its not one extreme or another, its a legit point that was made...the guy looked fat and i could explain exactly why for him. Unfortunately hes been far into himself too much since he got there in 09 but that's the guy up front like i said. Anyway none of this matters after this week i guess and i had no part in that meltdown but I'm not going to let dudes bash the dev team because to be honest theyre the reason we keep coming back and they do listen to us. By the way if i didnt say it THE DEV TEAM AND THE QUALITY THEY PUT OUT IS THE REASON 2K IS GREAT AND WHY WE ARE INTERESTED IN THE GAME AND WANT INFO THE DEV TEAMS WORK IS WHY I BUY 2K I GET EXCITED BECAUSE OF THE DEV TEAMS WORK ITS THEM IMPLEMENTING THEIR IDEAS RIGHT THAT GET ME HYPE not cheesy hashtags and name dropping

Amen my man