NBA 2K16 Video - Steph Curry with Mouth Guard - "Beyond the Shadows" Video on Monday

[lakers24]

Quote: Originally Posted by strawberryshortcake

I'll give equal weight to both gameplay and graphics on these new generation consoles. No longer should there be compromises made to one or the other. However, I am actually glad there are accessories heads, sneaker heads, lighting heads, color scheme heads, audio heads, presentation heads, or whatever heads there are that voice their concerns that has nothing to do with gameplay whatsoever. At least there is someone passionate enough to voice his/her concern to bring more authenticity to artsy side of things. If these people don't voice their concerns, 2k may simply brush it off as insignificant. We're not "there" yet, but NBA2k graphically probably wouldn't be this far along if not for those voicing their concerns. Even if someone thinks teeth accuracy, length of shoelaces, amount of compression the soles of shoes make is trivial, if someone voices their concerns, at least if 2k decides to make adjustments, it'll simply bring a stronger overall package to the game. My major gripe with 2k basketball and most sports games in general is still real footplanting for each and every single action performed on the field/court for BOTH the offensive and defensive player.

Regarding the bold, I was watching the demo of Crackdown 3 and its physics. I gotta say, if that works how it's supposed to and Sony adopts the cloud gaming thing as well, we could legit see realtime physics in sports games. I can only imagine all 10 guys on the floor having their actual weight etc. determine how they move around the floor. Physical contact would finally be realistic, no more clipping, etc.

[snocone]

As if input lag was bad enough online, now I'm gonna need to worry about their connections to process all my data offline

Pass

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dmanning2

This isn't a gameplay thread? No, this is a 2k thread. Never did I indicate I didn't care for these screenshots or visuals. I was one of the first posters in this thread I showed my love for these screens. But keep twisting people's words for your argument.

No its not so, as crazy as the teeth comment was its on topic is my point, in which he was wrong because there was a side by side that showed the teeth were indeed scanned.

2k went to that much detail!?

I wasnt saying you didnt mention the visuals but its apparent the clip wasnt about gameplay at all so im not even sure why you mentioned it

[GudStuffzz]

dooope. only thing that kinda bothered me was his pink skin.

[Dmanning2]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

No its not so, as crazy as the teeth comment was its on topic is my point, in which he was wrong because there was a side by side that showed the teeth were indeed scanned. 2k went to that much detail!?

Too bad the original guy we were talking about wasn't giving props to 2k about having teeth. Instead he was complaining that Curry chipped tooth wasn't scanned into the game.

How could someone nitpicking that bad about visuals for a basketball game & can't congratulate 2k on the things they got right based off screenshots the game looks amazing.

[strawberryshortcake]

Quote: Originally Posted by lakers24

Regarding the bold, I was watching the demo of Crackdown 3 and its physics. I gotta say, if that works how it's supposed to and Sony adopts the cloud gaming thing as well, we could legit see realtime physics in sports games. I can only imagine all 10 guys on the floor having their actual weight etc. determine how they move around the floor. Physical contact would finally be realistic, no more clipping, etc.

Just looked it up. Thanks. But which Crackdown 3 demo video? Do you have a link.

Are you sure about that though? Because from what I can see in these quick time stamps below, is that proper footplanting that connects the player to the ground is still far from ideal. Notice how the characters foot slips and slides as he shoots his gun. No way does a real live person slides his foot like so.

If physics was truly present, the ricochet of firing the gun would propel that Crackdown 3 character to move back because his foot was essentially sliding all over the place when he fired.

When I'm talking about real footplanting, I'm literally talking about absolutely no 'motion shifting' by the foot whatsoever, not 1 centimeter, not 1 microcenter at all. If you want the character to move in a certain direction, I want to see the foot actually push off the ground (without absolutely any microscopic motion shifting of the foot whatsoever) and propel the person in the desired direction.

This the first thing I check for in NBA2k and any other sports game is real footplanting, especially on the defensive side.

Crackdown 3 demo (1:10) and (1:18 - 1:24). I see a lot of these type of fictitious "footplanting" visible for NBA 2k defensive players. Something is simply not translating properly from the motion capture sessions to NBA2k video game, or your other sports games.

[Dmanning2]

If you want to get bent out of shape about things you can only see in instant replay zoomed all the way in. That's on you.

I hoped they fixed defensive, servers, basketballs going through defenders bodyparts. Rebounding/boxing out has been broken since what 2k6? A decade ago..

[sead94]

Quote: Originally Posted by GudStuffzz

dooope. only thing that kinda bothered me was his pink skin.

Cudos to 2K for the hard worked done, but the skin tone is off, kinda ruining the WOW effect. Plus, as experienced in the years past, graphic details will not grant love for the game if the gameplay is off (like it was in many areas in 2k15).