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Old 07-16-2015, 05:16 PM   #73
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First - the badges have counter-badges! You can get defensive badges to negate each offensive badge. But I guess everyone ignores that or doesn't care about defensive badges. But then have the nerve to bitch about offensive badges. Secondly, the cheese in 2K11, most of it was mechanical and had NO answers. In 2K15, with zig-zag, not only do they heavily hit the percentages, but I've seen PLENTY of people defend it just fine. If some idiot wants to do that crap and take pretty much the SAME penalty for it as if there was defender on a set shot, go for it. I hear and AGREE with the "perfect" release bull**** we got thanks to all that EA hype. I'm SO glad it's a general fail.

Anyway, ultimately, the talk about 2K15 being more cheese that 2K11 has to be measured with the fact that 2K11 had just as much, and some of it had no answer at all.

But you guys can believe what you want to believe. What do I know? I obviously know nothing about the game it would seem.

And the epitome of hyperbole comes in statements that claim NBA 2K15 looks like NBA Jam or Street. How YOU played those games? You're seriously comparing 2K15 to those games? Wow.
So a person needs counter badges or else everyone's my player can shoot better than Steph Curry? And we're supposed be satisfied with that crap? The mode has become completly unplayable. Having a perimeter lockdown defender badge doesn't stop an individual from getting a perfect release fadeaway 3.

And yes I'm comparing 2k15 online to those games. Have you ever spectated a Park or Rec game? Are you telling me that those games with every player shooting like Steph curry and posterizing everyone .....those resemble nba ball more than they resemble nba jam or nba streets? To each his own I guess
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Old 07-16-2015, 05:21 PM   #74
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You watched a few seconds of the video? Try replying to me when you've watched the entire thing. Or just Google crew cheese 2k11 and see it for yourself. You need reminded you're clearly delusional. Sorry mate.



And what's all this chat about badges? They weren't brought in to make skills easier they were brought in to make skills unique to players. You can't have anyone with decent dunk stats posterise people all the time like you used to. Now its players who actually posterise in real life that have the badge. So they do it more often, which is simulating real life.



Badges are a positive not a negative. Everyone had those skills before. There was nothing to separate players aside from generic attributes (of which there were less than there are now). The badges separate people who are elite at a certain skill from those who aren't.



If anything they need more badges not less.

Like I said, I have plenty of videos that I still check out every now and then. You're just making stuff up. What the hell is CPU Tony Allen cheese lol? I watched more and it's all silly. The guy is cheesing because he's hitting 3s. Of course you're not really going to show all the ones he's missed. Contested shots were easy misses.

What are you talking about? Were talking Rec/Crew here. Not regular players. If you have Posterizer it will make your chances of dunking on someone a lot higher. Just like a lot of the other badges mainly deadeye. Again, it shows you're not as knowledgable about the game.

I like badges. But my bottom line point is, it was a lot harder to dunk or make 3s on people in 2K11. I used to not even really take 3s in 11 because it was hard. Specially from the top of the key. I just ate midrange up and the wings.
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Either I'm crazy or everyone else is. The 7ft wing players with Devin Harris jumpers running to the corner and splashing contested threes every game? The post spin dunks? The hop step cheese? Nobody? Seriously?

Crew was a cheese fest. I don't know how anyone can argue anything else.
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Like I said, I have plenty of videos that I still check out every now and then. You're just making stuff up. What the hell is CPU Tony Allen cheese lol? I watched more and it's all silly. The guy is cheesing because he's hitting 3s. Of course you're not really going to show all the ones he's missed. Contested shots were easy misses.

What are you talking about? Were talking Rec/Crew here. Not regular players. If you have Posterizer it will make your chances of dunking on someone a lot higher. Just like a lot of the other badges mainly deadeye. Again, it shows you're not as knowledgable about the game.

I like badges. But my bottom line point is, it was a lot harder to dunk or make 3s on people in 2K11. I used to not even really take 3s in 11 because it was hard. Specially from the top of the key. I just ate midrange up and the wings.
Why did they remove the mode? = cheese.

Why haven't they brought it back? = so cheesy it takes years to fix.

Agree or disagree? And if you disagree why did they remove it and why haven't they brought it back? What's the reasoning?
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Why did they remove the mode? = cheese.



Why haven't they brought it back? = so cheesy it takes years to fix.



Agree or disagree? And if you disagree why did they remove it and why haven't they brought it back? What's the reasoning?

Umm, modded players. What are you talking about? I specifically said, without modding, even though hacking is in 15 right now. Without any of that. 2K15 was cheesier than 2K11. They only removed it because of the modders. What's your point?

You keep bringing up mods. Yes, that was bad but it was a way around that. But it was bad. But it's happening now. Not as bad but it's in once again. So I don't get it. And I keep saying, throwing that out, but you keep bringing it up.

And please answer my question. What the hell is Tony Allen cheese? Y'all make up anything. Anything that happens that y'all don't like, it's cheese lol.

Just leave it at this. Because we are madly offtopic and a mod go come in here and go bizirk. Here are some random vids from my YouTube. You can find anyone you like. Yes, there is things you'd consider cheese just like any online game. 2K11 def had issues. But compare any of mines to a JRC game minus the Mods and tell me which one looks more like basketball. Here is 2 random ones:

http://youtu.be/TAtVMuMjN0g

http://youtu.be/5dAi_T7SnSg
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Thought we were talkin bout Pro-Am? Pumped to hear more about this mode.

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Umm, modded players. What are you talking about? I specifically said, without modding, even though hacking is in 15 right now. Without any of that. 2K15 was cheesier than 2K11. They only removed it because of the modders. What's your point?

You keep bringing up mods. Yes, that was bad but it was a way around that. But it was bad. But it's happening now. Not as bad but it's in once again. So I don't get it. And I keep saying, throwing that out, but you keep bringing it up.

And please answer my question. What the hell is Tony Allen cheese? Y'all make up anything. Anything that happens that y'all don't like, it's cheese lol.

Just leave it at this. Because we are madly offtopic and a mod go come in here and go bizirk. Here are some random vids from my YouTube. You can find anyone you like. Yes, there is things you'd consider cheese just like any online game. 2K11 def had issues. But compare any of mines to a JRC game minus the Mods and tell me which one looks more like basketball. Here is 2 random ones:

http://youtu.be/TAtVMuMjN0g

http://youtu.be/5dAi_T7SnSg
I don't know what you're talking about with "Tony Allen cheese" I watched that video without the sound. I watched the entire thing not just a few seconds (unlike you). And all I saw was 3pt cheese and dunk cheese with a few plays in between.

The fact that you can't or won't admit the cheese existed only proves you're either in complete denial or never played the game. Sorry. The 3 cheese, the hop step cheese, the cheesy post game, even charge cheese. It was awful. Absolute cheese fest.

I'm not even going to discuss it at this point. It's clearly a waste of time. I'm done.
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I don't know what you're talking about with "Tony Allen cheese" I watched that video without the sound. I watched the entire thing not just a few seconds (unlike you). And all I saw was 3pt cheese and dunk cheese with a few plays in between.



The fact that you can't or won't admit the cheese existed only proves you're either in complete denial or never played the game. Sorry. The 3 cheese, the hop step cheese, the cheesy post game, even charge cheese. It was awful. Absolute cheese fest.



I'm not even going to discuss it at this point. It's clearly a waste of time.

I thought you made the video. Well listen to it. I could go to any video game and record and show highlights of what I think is cheese. I am telling you dunking and shooting was not easy. Now if you were open, most likely it will go in but even those specially from 3 was questionable.

You seem mad bro. I never said cheese didnt exist. It's "cheese" in every game. Learn to read what I am saying. I said it's worse in 2K15 that does not equal there is none in 2K11. And you keep saying I didn't play it. I played it for 3 years and have mad vids on my YouTube.

Look at what you're saying lmao. It's all in 2K15. Charges, cheesy post game is way worst than 11 because you can't really play d in the post in 15, there was no 3 cheese in 11, but 15, yes most people complained crazy about shooting. Never really heard that about 2K11. If so, show me. But it's over, I won't change your mind and you def won't change mine. I played them both heavily. If you have video proof, message me the vid.

Sorry for the derailment of the thread. Back to pro am. I wish 2K would say something about it. Threads like these with nothing to go on is bound to go off track.
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