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Old 03-08-2015, 10:14 PM   #1
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Twitter Rage Reveals 2k Direction on Online Leagues

The last couple of weekends have rendered 2ks online modes damn near unplayable with crippling lag, rampant disconnects, and unreliable servers. Although the servers are generally stable during the weekdays, there has been an undeniable correlation between the increased online activity and the stressed 2k server load during this peak time of online gaming. Suffice to say the online league mode always gets the short end of the stick when 2k server load allocation are rationed in comparison to the more popular mypark, online rank, and my team modes. Time and time again, OL members get the dreaded error below during intense 12 min matches that rely on server stability to complete time consuming league games.



Amid this frustration, a twitter and OS member decided to blindly target the 2k devs with vitriolic rhetoric that wouldn't be tolerated on these boards. However, amidst the heated back and forth, there were truths that were revealed about 2ks direction or lack there of online leagues and associations in the present and future.

The twitter user had just experienced a numerous disconnects and sent out a generic 2k servers suck message to whichever dev he thought would respond and Da Czar took the bait.



Da Czar could've just left with the comment below but the twitter user obviously hit a nerve with the venemous tone albeit with legit concerns about broken online leagues and 2k disastrous servers.



The conversation then veered into 2ks direction of still being committed to sim gameplay inspite of their terrible servers, with the da czar encouraging the twitter user to check out the sim hangouts on YouTube for verification. This was a revelation for me as I hadn't heard of the hang outs and the in depth discussions there about 2k in general.



Perhaps the most interesting part of the heated exchange, atleast as it pertains to the future of Online Leagues are below, when Da Czar reveals just how low a priority they are for the 2k devs due to numbers that reveal how little the community uses the feature. But after documenting the barebones and broken OLs in another thread here on OS, how can these numbers be used as basis for continued neglect, when some users cannot even CREATE online leagues due to an upload error? If 2k builds a viable OA mode that functions as advertised, who is to say that the mode won't receive more attention and time from the community? Has 2k not seen the success of Madden's Connected Online Franchise Mode? In my opinion, if they build it, they will come. But to say that users aren't devoting time to a broken mode was perplexing even though Da Czar had every reason to be dismissive of a disrespectful twitter user.



When another twitter user stepped in to correct the misguided twitter user on the fact the Da Czar wasn't in charge of the mode, it became painfully obvious that our beloved mode will see minimal if any improvement for 2k16.



There were more explosive back and forths during this exchange, but the gist of the matter is that OL and OA will eventually be phased out in favor of the more popular "My" Modes. Da Czar is one of the few devs who is advocating improvements for this god forsaken mode, so if you are supporter of Online Leagues and Associations, let your voice be heard, lest we lose perhaps the most sim aspect of online gameplay in 2k. Starting a league, which isn't even possible for some users due to lg custom roster upload glitches have driven OL community into the abyss. If 2k are using numbers to justify the neglect, those numbers aren't valid so long as the mode is utterly useless in its current state.
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Old 03-08-2015, 10:43 PM   #2
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Re: Twitter Rage Reveals 2k Direction on Online Leagues

I an one of those players that Doesn't play OA,not because i have no interest in playing it but because the mode is unplayable imo.What next on the chopping block team-up? Will sim players be forced to play offline only so that the masses can abuse expliots in the park lagg free?
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:04 PM   #3
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Re: Twitter Rage Reveals 2k Direction on Online Leagues

Why would anyone play a mode that doesn't function correctly?

Obviously the numbers will be low.
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:15 PM   #4
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Re: Twitter Rage Reveals 2k Direction on Online Leagues

This is ********. Instead of complaining about online leagues you should have just said lag on general. I'm with czar on this. Completely pointless argument. I'mextremely disappointed in the community as oflate.
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:17 PM   #5
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Maybe if the community drafted up a formal letter it would be received better.
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Re: Twitter Rage Reveals 2k Direction on Online Leagues

With all due respect, I think you've extrapolated that exchange FAR beyond what it is. A dude starts firing at the devs directly, and Czar responds that the insults don't get results basically. He makes ONE comment how not many people have EVER played that mode - even in it's relative glory days mind you - and you take that to mean that OL is low priority. Well, maybe it is. It sucks (as you know, I'm a HUGE fan of that mode). Being a LOW priority doesn't mean that dudes there aren't passionate about it. It just means that they have limited resources that have to be managed toward features that are more important to more fans of the game. It's childish to think that it shouldn't work that way. The KEY tweet from Czar is that the dude IS arguing with the one dude that's behind him 100%. We here KNOW how that bleeds sim in ALL aspects.

At the end of the day, I don't know how someone can use the current, overloaded server issues as a platform to improve OL. They have nothing to do with each other - another one of Czar's points. I want this feature fixed as much as anyone else here. But crying about lag and overloaded servers in March is a strawman to that cause.
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The worst thing about this thread is how the OP is jumping to a ton of conclusions and assuming what Czar meant in his tweets. We all know what happens when you "assume"...

Czar did not say 2K is phasing out League play. You came to that conclusion on your own.

Regarding the tweets themselves....
"Us sim heads tried to be polite to guys but the sim community is always ignored. Time to insult you guys"

Sim is a lifestyle. A mature one. That's what Czar is trying to get across to the young man. Making the sim community and movement look bad with selfish, emotional displays of foolishness does not do the community any favors. Any clown can call themselves sim. Actions speak louder than words. Levar isn't speaking for the sim community when he says "us simheads". He is speaking for himself, and himself alone.

Likewise, Czar is only one voice inside of 2K, and these types of threads are only going to cost the community their voice if and when the higherups one day decide they don't want Czar to respond to these cretins because it paints the company in a bad light.
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Old 03-09-2015, 12:03 AM   #8
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I'm the one that said all that **** and if u can't see that 2k is phasing out OA's in favor of myteam and mypark u are blind my friend


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