NBA 2K14: It's Time to Revamp Presentation

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

Yes, we need more realistic camerawork and cuts that add to the narrative. I would think this would be relatively easy to do. Other additions: Replays on threes. Replays of scores after successful dribble moves/ankle breakers, especially those that make the crowd ooh and ahh. Replays of blocks and steals. Replays of earlier moments on fouls and dead balls. Replays of close foul calls. Post-game highlight reels should be brought back like 2K12 and 2K11. It should be played automatically instead of Player of The Game, or perhaps one of the two should be picked randomly and both should be available in the post-game wrap up screen. Also, post-game highlights MUST be fixed for full length games. It's a bit silly that highlights work for 48 minute games on CG but not NG which has way more memory. It feels somewhat unprofessional/unpolished when 2K14 NG doesn't have highlights for actual NBA length games. And we MUST be able to save replays again!

You say things I greatly favor. Watching highlights, breaking down highlights, editing highlights, and saving highlights were all a huge part of feeling as though the game I just played meant something. I liked leaving a footprint. Also, I don't think an NBA simulation could ever go wrong with emulating real life when it comes to their highlights reels, replays, and overall presentation. Real life emulation, in fact, is the direction for which I am hopeful 2K fully begins to lean once again (on the court and off).

[turty11]

it would take time and effort but i think 2k should work out a license with to have home game commentators (knick games get frazier and breen, celtics mike and tommy...etc)

it would DRASTICALLY improve presentation, sure it would take time to get voice overs done from all these guys but it would be one of the greatest things done in sports gaming history imo

[Cowboy008]

I think if they got the TNT license it would help with the presentation. Also another little thing they can do is during halftime actually show other games that are currently playing and what the score is. The way they have it now is they just show you the match ups.

[rudeworld]

Maybe get another set of announcers or sign a deal with the officials to make each game feel different. If making the game similar to what we're seeing on TV (ESPN, ABC & TNT) I think it's hard to add anything else and we would just be nit-picking.

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

You say things I greatly favor. Watching highlights, breaking down highlights, editing highlights, and saving highlights were all a huge part of feeling as though the game I just played meant something. I liked leaving a footprint. Also, I don't think an NBA simulation could ever go wrong with emulating real life when it comes to their highlights reels, replays, and overall presentation. Real life emulation, in fact, is the direction for which I am hopeful 2K fully begins to lean once again (on the court and off).

Exactly. I had a huge library of saved replays for 2K13. It was a shock I wasn't able to save them in NG 2K14 and definitely lessed my ability to relish my games and feeling like they had some persistence. At least with the XBox One, I can just ask my XBox to "record that", but it's missing sound and not the same thing as having a real interactive replay.

Now I can understand some casuals might not dig replays on fouls since the ref is always right according to 2K, so maybe they can add options to turn some replay types off, but it really should be available for the presentation to feel like a real broadcast.

More additions-- out of bounds replays when the ball is rapidly touched by one player than another, or two are in close proximity.

Replays of goal-tending calls.

Replays of NON foul calls that were close.

Replays of plays that lead to an injury (half the time I don't even see the injury occur and have no idea what happened).

Replays of difficult, contested shots when the game is close or the making team has momentum.

Game winners and buzzer beaters MUST be replayed right after quick shots of players celebrating. It's amazing it isn't.

Potential game winners in the last seconds should also be replayed even if they are not especially difficult/interesting shots, and key shots near end of game should be replayed going into a time out.

Replays of nice plays during the halftime show (pick-and rolls, horns, floppys, ball movement, etc.)

Of course the announcers should also comment during all these replays about what they think and see.

I'd also love replays where the foot is close to the line (though 3-pointers in 2K are often actually 2-pointers, and footwork around the arc is glitchy so 2K probably won't want to call attention to that). And I'd really love replays to review earlier close 3-point/2-point shots and a score adjustment but I can see why a game designer who wants straight forward scorekeeping might not like that.

As far as Real Voice goes, it'd be great to have post-game interviews from the media table for Playoffs. I know they would have less interviews to sample from but it's something that would really give a Playoff feel and take the next step.

Speaking of which, media table style interviews should NOT be used for regular season games in MyCareer. They should be conducted on court or in the locker room.

[eF 5ive]

Quote: Originally Posted by turty11

they cant and wont as long as EA is still attempting to make a basketball game

I don't get comments like these. When comparing the two games, or just strictly talking about Live, you guys bash it so hard.

But then you take a look at the 2k forum and outside of the graphical feats, nothing is liked that much about 2k. Trade logic, tipped balls, weird animations, player attributes, draft logic, roster updates, CPU ISO, running circles till it gets in paint, CPU rebounding, "comeback AI" (let's just say basically all aspects of gameplay).

So isn't 2k really still trying to make a basketball game too?

Let's be real, both franchises are slacking.

[turty11]

where do you see me bashing EA?

EA has the espn license, and as long as they continue the live series they probably will, 2k CANT get ESPN

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by turty11

it would take time and effort but i think 2k should work out a license with to have home game commentators (knick games get frazier and breen, celtics mike and tommy...etc) it would DRASTICALLY improve presentation, sure it would take time to get voice overs done from all these guys but it would be one of the greatest things done in sports gaming history imo

Just get Bob Fitzgerald and Jim Barnett of the Warriors. They're local to 2K and Barnett is retiring this year so may be available. They can also get Tom Tolbert if he takes of Barnett's job.