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Old 12-11-2013, 11:48 AM   #49
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Re: PastaPadre: VC Implementation Threatens The Future Of The NBA 2K Series

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And the fact they haven't implemented the idea of importing careers from past games is funny. I mean, I know that would cause problems with 99 overalls on day one, but if everyone had to restart next year with no VC and then use that myCareer as it's "online" player and then carry over year by year it's ratings/animations/gear, people wouldn't really have a problem.

And if people want to start a new career, they should be able to load out careers they want to play as online.

So many ideas but never get implemented for some reason.

EDIT: Who's the Keith guy in the Disqus chat, he seems very fan-boyish. One of the few guys who are defend 2k in this lol.

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If it's the Keith that posts on Pasta's site, then yes, he is VERY fan-boyish. Disgustingly so.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:54 AM   #50
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The experience of the game is a a whole lot of "YOU CAN'T DO THAT (UNLESS YOU PAY UP)!"

All kinds of options and possibilities are built into the game, very visibly displayed. Whole modes are built around advancing using these options. The game itself is designed to make the player want and need these items. They're not even really "options" because you need them to advance. And if you put in 200 hours of grinding game play, you can make some progress.

Or you can buy your get out of jail free card for another $20+ just to be able to purchase the game you thought you bought right out of the gate.

It's not even a game anymore. It's a shakedown.

Casual gamers are not going to like this any more than the rest of us do. What's fun about an experience that is constantly showing you what you can't do? What's fun about a game that rubs your nose in the feeling of hitting a wall you can't get around without paying up? It makes even the things that should be fun, like just "playing" a game, and makes it feel like working.

"Working" for VC that pays you like a Southeast Asian garment factory worker is not "playing" a game.

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Old 12-11-2013, 12:19 PM   #51
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Satirical video added to the original post of where VC could be heading:



Again, satire.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:27 PM   #52
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It's out of control now. VC is fine if people want "extras" like personalized shoes, clothes, stuff like that but it has no business interfering with basic game modes. If it's a money issue I would gladly pay $100 for a great game with no VC but full functionality. You know if all the money they make off VC was going back into the game to make it unquestionably more awesome every year I could even understand that...but it's like they just tweak the game every year with no major improvements. The "improvements" like shot blocking (!) are actually just fixes to a previously flawed game...and the updates are still always way behind...it's a problem.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:51 PM   #53
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This is the first year (playing since '07) that I ventured outside of just playing a season or exhibition matches. I am not liking what I am seeing. They have some serious balls expecting people to pay real money to dress a fake player in fake Jordan's. They should be giving this stuff away, not trying to sell it.
Wish I could meet one of these idiots who actually paid for these things so I could smack them upside the head.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:53 PM   #54
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Great to see how OS's Staff is now on board with this. VC implementation has been criticized before the game even came out.

MyGM is a fine demonstration for why it's even there:
You need to buy upgrades in order enable basic functions (setting rotations, firing coaches, etc.). We are given an curious selling pitch; that your GM is "gaining abilities as he gains experience".

However, when one realizes that these upgrades carry over to new career you simply double react; A: I don't have to spend twice! ; B: Why am I spending in the first place? You start to realize the original intention on VC being there in the first place is just forcing the user to spend (even if it's only once for this mode.)

You can even see how 2K developers aren't completely happy with VC by looking at their posts. (SimBaller: If I'm wrong by assuming this, feel free to correct me)

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Your GM Attributes, Special Abilities, and Facilities (yes, facilities) carry over from one MyGM to the next. I didn't want you purchasing these things more than once. Once you buy it, it's yours for all MyGMs that you start.
Sad.

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Old 12-11-2013, 01:02 PM   #55
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The design decision to make VC impact MyGM in that way is stupefying. It took all my willpower, but I held off on buying a PS4 and 2k14. I wanted them, but at the last minute, decided to wait to see if they had issues. If this is the future, I'll stick with my PS3 versions. But it is incredibly frustrating, because I want to continue playing sports games on new consoles. But all these MTs have sucked out the excitement for me.

Nice thing about current sports games is that they are now so advanced (even on PS3/360) that older versions can satisfy the itch.

Like a lot of people, I still play College Hoops 2k8 and that still works for me.
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:09 PM   #56
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You are wrong here! they have stated it wasn't included because of time constraints...[/IRONY]



$60? and you think that's much? here in Spain the game is 70€, which equals $96.3!

Can you imagine how people feel over here when after spending almost $100 in a game, and once you have wasted a couple of hours with it you realize that they are bleeding you asking for more money for almost anything? and moreover, after wasting another couple of hours you realize that the same game that's trying to cheat you has been stripped down and has more bugs than a puddle of mud? Candy Crush is a free-to-play game and its microtransactions are less restrictive than this $96 game.

Do we have the word STUPID written on our foreheads???

I've been taking a look at Spaniard NBA2K forums and those are boiling too, so don't think it's just an isolated movement happening in OS or 2K Forums. Ronnie and LD just retweet positive comments but I'm sure that for each 2 positive tweets they have 50 not so nice.

2K has bitten the hand that feeds them and if they don't apologize and rectify their direction they will be in danger of starving. It's not the first time that has happened.

10000% AGREE. Also it sucks that you had to Pay EXTRA for the same Flawed game. I am glad I am not the ONLY one who sees ONLY Positive Comments Retweeted on Twitter. LOL
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