I really, really want to like this game.

[thaSLAB]

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

You're not. I do manual defense and have a realistic defensive experience.

Same here. Very realistic. If anything, I think I may have certain players "out playing" their ratings. It's not anything unrealistic, but on occasion I wonder if a player makes a certain play if it's rating based. I really enjoy the [manual] aspects of the game, which add to the fun/experience of the game IMO. Even at HOF difficulty.

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[bspring3]

Quote: Originally Posted by P.A.D.

At this point, there's no reason we should be relegated to having to use auto fielding in order to simulate a realistic defensive experience. Comeback or no comeback, fielding is abhorrent.

I have to ask...do you not want ratings to matter...better yet, do you want 100% input in every action of the game. Reading your comments in the various threads, this seems to be the case. There is nothing wrong with that, but if that is the case, The Show is not the right game for you. Even with meter pitching, zone hitting, and manual fielding and throwing, ratings will still generate randoms events. This includes missed grounders, a pitch that is perfectly in the green yet still does not go where you want, a good timing swing with the ball in the center of the PCI that is a weak pop up. These are all rating generated random events. So yes, the game code is doing this, but it is the ratings, nothing more, introducing these events.


The exception is some of these glitches or wonky animations (such as the fielder slowing down at the wall after a catch) but those happen at all difficulties and settings.


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[Knight165]

Quote: Originally Posted by bspring3

I have to ask...do you not want ratings to matter...better yet, do you want 100% input in every action of the game. Reading your comments in the various threads, this seems to be the case. There is nothing wrong with that, but if that is the case, The Show is not the right game for you. Even with meter pitching, zone hitting, and manual fielding and throwing, ratings will still generate randoms events. This includes missed grounders, a pitch that is perfectly in the green yet still does not go where you want, a good timing swing with the ball in the center of the PCI that is a weak pop up. These are all rating generated random events. So yes, the game code is doing this, but it is the ratings, nothing more, introducing these events. The exception is some of these glitches or wonky animations (such as the fielder slowing down at the wall after a catch) but those happen at all difficulties and settings. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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[thaSLAB]

Quote: Originally Posted by bspring3

The exception is some of these glitches or wonky animations (such as the fielder slowing down at the wall after a catch) but those happen at all difficulties and settings. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And to further add to this, these are issues the developers have recognized as problems, and have stated they will be taking another look at.

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[Baseball Purist]

Quote: Originally Posted by bspring3

I have to ask...do you not want ratings to matter...better yet, do you want 100% input in every action of the game. Reading your comments in the various threads, this seems to be the case. There is nothing wrong with that, but if that is the case, The Show is not the right game for you. Even with meter pitching, zone hitting, and manual fielding and throwing, ratings will still generate randoms events. This includes missed grounders, a pitch that is perfectly in the green yet still does not go where you want, a good timing swing with the ball in the center of the PCI that is a weak pop up. These are all rating generated random events. So yes, the game code is doing this, but it is the ratings, nothing more, introducing these events. The exception is some of these glitches or wonky animations (such as the fielder slowing down at the wall after a catch) but those happen at all difficulties and settings. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

But there are settings already in place (classic,timing,auto) to have ratings be the primary factor of results. In other games you're not penalized if you mastered something by ratings.

To use NBA 2k as an example, if you shoot a shot in the green, you're not going to get an airball. I feel the same should be in the Show. If I'm choosing to play with zone or meter and I hit something perfectly, I shouldn't be penalized because of "ratings"....because again there are settings in place to have ratings be the deciding factor.

I can't tell you how many times on offense on the higher difficulties, I'm getting better contact (PCI indicates this) than the CPU and I'm hitting outs, while their PCI is no where near the ball and hitting oppo HR's. The AI should be playing smarter and better, not handicapping my results because ratings are taking over.

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baseball Purist

But there are settings already in place (classic,timing,auto) to have ratings be the primary factor of results. In other games you're not penalized if you mastered something by ratings. To use NBA 2k as an example, if you shoot a shot in the green, you're not going to get an airball. I feel the same should be in the Show. If I'm choosing to play with zone or meter and I hit something perfectly, I shouldn't be penalized because of "ratings"....because again there are settings in place to have ratings be the deciding factor. I can't tell you how many times on offense on the higher difficulties, I'm getting better contact (PCI indicates this) than the CPU and I'm hitting outs, while their PCI is no where near the ball and hitting oppo HR's. The AI should be playing smarter and better, not handicapping my results because ratings are taking over.

And some of us want it how it is where I play the game but still have ratings have an effect on the game.

And the CPU does play smarter on higher difficulties. There is no cheating/cheesiness/boosting taking place.

If that was the case there would be more than 2 or 3 people complaining. Trust me

[bspring3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baseball Purist

But there are settings already in place (classic,timing,auto) to have ratings be the primary factor of results. In other games you're not penalized if you mastered something by ratings. To use NBA 2k as an example, if you shoot a shot in the green, you're not going to get an airball. I feel the same should be in the Show. If I'm choosing to play with zone or meter and I hit something perfectly, I shouldn't be penalized because of "ratings"....because again there are settings in place to have ratings be the deciding factor. I can't tell you how many times on offense on the higher difficulties, I'm getting better contact (PCI indicates this) than the CPU and I'm hitting outs, while their PCI is no where near the ball and hitting oppo HR's. The AI should be playing smarter and better, not handicapping my results because ratings are taking over.

One thing to clear up, PCI is not the barrel of the bat, it is just the likelihood that you make good contact. Center of the PCI is the best CHANCE but never 100%, ratings ultimately determine outcome. So not having the PCI on the ball still has the CHANCE of being a hit. PCI location is just one of many factors in the algorithm, not the end all be all factor.

In regards to your example, I would argue that in NBA 2k...u could master the shots in the green but the ratings will still make you miss. In Madden, you can still user catch, but the ratings will still determine drops. Ratings are the backbone of sports video games and always will be. It is how you differentiate between Mike Trout and Stephen Drew.

In regards to difficulties, ratings adjustments is how difficulty is scaled. All-star is exactly what the ratings say, rookie and veteran the user gets a ratings boost, HOF and legend the CPU gets a rating boost...this is how the game makes them play better.

You may not like that ratings are a factor in outcomes and I can understand that to an extent. But like I said in my earlier post, MLB the show is not the game for you if that is the case. I won't pretend to know what other baseball games are out there but I am guessing there is a game that doesn't not have a ratings factor.


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[NDAlum]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baseball Purist

But there are settings already in place (classic,timing,auto) to have ratings be the primary factor of results. In other games you're not penalized if you mastered something by ratings. To use NBA 2k as an example, if you shoot a shot in the green, you're not going to get an airball. I feel the same should be in the Show. If I'm choosing to play with zone or meter and I hit something perfectly, I shouldn't be penalized because of "ratings"....because again there are settings in place to have ratings be the deciding factor. I can't tell you how many times on offense on the higher difficulties, I'm getting better contact (PCI indicates this) than the CPU and I'm hitting outs, while their PCI is no where near the ball and hitting oppo HR's. The AI should be playing smarter and better, not handicapping my results because ratings are taking over.

It wouldn't bother me for one second if meter/zone were 100% user input based. Just completely throw out ratings for guys who want a solid hit to be roped somewhere out there. Let manual fielding not have errors.

Fine by me