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Old 03-27-2011, 04:22 AM   #1
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Pitchers w/o full energy after 4 days rest?

Is anyone else having the problem of their starters not having full energy after 4 days rest? I started Cliff Lee for 7 innings on opening day. When it was time for his next scheduled start, he had about 90% energy. Why wouldn't he be 100% ready to go? This is the point of a 5 man rotation. Am I doing something wrong?
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Old 03-27-2011, 04:42 AM   #2
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I started a Red Sox campaign for fun, and the third time through the rotation I noticed Jon Lester was not fully rested after normal rest. I'll check back in when I see what happens to others on this time through and also the 4th time. It does seem odd, especially because for over 1/2 of baseball's long history pitchers were on a 4-man rotation, so a 5-man one should clearly be restful enough.

Strange.
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:48 AM   #3
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Raise Starter Stamina to 6 and you should be able to go 100 pitches with starters with good stamina. You need to take out your starters when they have about 10% energy left.
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Re: Pitchers w/o full energy after 4 days rest?

you're not doing anything wrong, its the way it is. At times I've had pitchers with full energy upon their next start, while others didn't.

For me, if Jaime Garcia throws over 90 pitches, he typically doesn't have full stamina the next start. Carp/Wainwright/Westbrook can throw over 100 pitches and more often than not be fully rested the next trip out.

There are so many factors that come into play, I've noticed, such as but not limited to:

*number of pitches
*number of high velocity pitches
*pitcher actual stamina rating
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:49 AM   #5
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I wouldn't say it's a problem not being fully rested after 4 days rest, especially if it was a long previous outing. Seems pretty realistic.
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Re: Pitchers w/o full energy after 4 days rest?

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you're not doing anything wrong, its the way it is. At times I've had pitchers with full energy upon their next start, while others didn't.

For me, if Jaime Garcia throws over 90 pitches, he typically doesn't have full stamina the next start. Carp/Wainwright/Westbrook can throw over 100 pitches and more often than not be fully rested the next trip out.

There are so many factors that come into play, I've noticed, such as but not limited to:

*number of pitches
*number of high velocity pitches
*pitcher actual stamina rating
Right, and IIRC if pitchers are throwing more high effort pitches they gas out quicker too.

If you pitch until you get the X PITCHER IS GETTING TIRED message there's a decent chance they'll be fully rested. If you pitch until the X PITCHER IS OUT OF ENERGY message, well, they're probably going to get shelled but they're also going to be down a bit of stamina for their next start. It's not a bad system - if you strain your starter it has an effect on his next start and if you're nice to him you get him back fully rested the next time around.

The stamina slider is of course there for you if you don't agree with the out of the box tuned numbers. I kind of like the default since it keeps my starting pitcher inning totals relatively realistic but that may be different depending on how you pitch!
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Old 03-27-2011, 01:07 PM   #7
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I wouldn't say it's a problem not being fully rested after 4 days rest, especially if it was a long previous outing. Seems pretty realistic.
Except it's not realistic. Throwing 10 more pitches in a game doesn't make any difference on how tired you are in your next start.
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Old 03-27-2011, 01:08 PM   #8
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I like the slider on 5. It provides the possibility of utilizing the spot starter. I wish spot starter was a pitching rotation option.
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