Player Potential Thread

[BatsareBugs]

Per the request of Russell, who wanted me to create a new thread with this post.

Just as an aid, after the player name was my original suggestion in this format (current potential/suggested) and the one following it is the player's current potential in the new online roster update, along with if it increased, decreased, or stayed the same.

Quote: Originally Posted by Rag3vsW0rld I downloaded the new rosters online. If you have the wacked-out potentials even if you have logged on to sportsconnect, you will have to do the following: 1) Go on Sportsconnect 2) Download and Save Live Roster 3) Go offline 4) Load up the Live Roster You should have the new rosters with the potential fixes. For reference (From my list last week, and additional notable players): *NOTE: My initial proposed potentials were based on the roster out of the box. **DISCLAIMER - Based on last year, potentials may change on download of the live roster (I remember I would do this since potential would change each time in previous games)** Baltimore Orioles Nick Markakis (B/A) - B - Same Garrett Atkins (C/B) - C - Same Jim Johnson (F/C) - F - Same Brian Matusz (B/A) - A - Increased Brad Bergesen (D/B) - B - Increased Cla Meredith (F/C) - F- Same Robert Andino (F/C) - F - Same Boston Red Sox Dustin Pedroia (C/B) - A - Increased John Lackey (B/A) - B - Same Jon Lester (C/A) - A - Increased Daniel Bard (C/B) - A - Increased Jed Lowrie (D/C) - A - Increased Jeremy Hermida (D/C) - C - Increased Josh Reddick (D/C) - D - Same New York Yankees Robinson Cano (D/B) - B - Increased Chad Gaudin (D/C) - D - Same Alfredo Aceves (D/C) - D - Same Nick Swisher (C/B) - C - Same Tampa Bay Rays Evan Longoria (C/A) - A - Increased Matt Garza (C/A) - B - Increased J.P. Howell (D/B) - C - Increased B.J. Upton (B/A) - A - Increased Willy Aybar (F/C) - F - Same Dioner Navarro (D/C) - C - Increased Toronto Blue Jays Aaron Hill (D/B) - B - Increased Adam Lind (C/A) - A - Increased Ricky Romero (B/A) - A - Increased Jeremy Reed (D/C) - D - Same Chicago White Sox Carlos Quentin (D/B) - C - Increased Gavin Floyd (D/B) - B - Increased Mark Teahen (C/B) - C - Same Dan Hudson (D/B) - B - Increased Cleveland Indians Grady Sizemore (D/A) - B - Increased Shin-Soo Choo (D/A) - A - Increased Asdrubal Cabrera (C/B) - A - Increased Fausto Carmona (D/B) - C - Increased Chris Perez (D/B) - A - Increased Justin Masterson (C/B) - A - Increased Joe Smith (D/C) - D - Same Jake Westbrook (C/B) - C - Same Jhonny Peralta (D/C) - D - Same Jeremy Sowers (D/C) - D - Same Michael Brantley (D/B) - A - Increased Trevor Crowe (D/C) - C - Increased Andy Marte (D/C) - D - Same Detroit Tigers Miguel Cabrera (D/A) - A - Increased Justin Verlander (D/A) - B - Increased Rick Porcello (B/A) - A - Increased Max Scherzer (B/A) - A - Increased Jeremy Bonderman (F/C) - F - Same Armando Galarraga (C/B) - C - Same Robinson Diaz (F/C) - F - Same Kansas City Royals Zack Greinke (B/A) - A - Increased Joakim Soria (B/A) - A - Increased Billy Butler (C/B) - B - Increased Robinson Tejeda (D/C) - D - Same Luke Hochevar (C/B) - C - Same Chris Getz (C/B) - C - Same Scott Podsednik (C/B) - C - Same Alex Gordon (A/B) - A - Same Mike Aviles (C/B) - C - Same Josh Fields (D/C) - D - Same Alberto Callaspo (D/B) - D - Same Brian Anderson (F/C) - F - Same Minnesota Twins Joe Mauer (C/A) - A - Increased Kevin Slowey (C/B) - B - Increased Delmon Young (A/B) - A - Same Jason Kubel (D/C) - C - Increased J.J. Hardy (D/C) - D - Same Glen Perkins (D/C) - D - Same Brendan Harris (D/C) - D - Same Anthony Swarzak (D/C) - D - Same Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Kendry Morales (C/A) - A - Increased Juan Rivera (A/B) - A - Same Jered Weaver (D/B) - A - Increased Scott Kazmir (D/A) - C - Increased Ervin Santana (D/B) - C - Increased Jeff Mathis (D/C) - B - Increased Oakland Athletics Andrew Bailey (C/A) - A - Increased Kurt Suzuki (C/B) - A - Increased Dallas Braden (D/B) - C - Increased Jerry Blevins (F/C) - D - Increased Daric Barton (D/C) - B - Increased Brad Ziegler (C/B) - C - Same Kevin Kouzmanoff (C/B) - C - Same Josh Outman (C/B) - B - Increased Jake Fox (D/C) - C - Increased Edgar Gonzalez (F/C) - F - Same Gio Gonzalez (D/C) - A - Increased Seattle Mariners Felix Hernandez (C/A) - A - Increased Franklin Gutierrez (D/B) - B - Increased Mark Lowe (D/C) - D - Same Ryan Rowland-Smith (D/B) - B - Increased Brandon League (D/C) - D - Same Jose Lopez (D/B) - D - Same Eric Byrnes (B/C) - B - Same Casey Kotchman (D/B) - D - Same Jason Vargas (F/C) - F - Same Garrett Olson (D/C) - D - Same Eliezer Alfonzo (D/C) - N/A (Not on Roster) Texas Rangers Ian Kinsler (D/A) - A - Increased Scott Feldman (D/B) - B - Increased Brandon McCarthy (F/B) - D - Increased Darren O'Day (D/B) - B - Increased David Murphy (C/B) - C - Same Julio Borbon (D/B) - A - Increased Jarrod Saltalamacchia (D/C) - C - Increased Taylor Teagarden (D/C) - A - Increased Max Ramirez (D/C) - A - Increased Atlanta Braves Brian McCann (D/A) - A - Increased Jair Jurrjens (C/B) - B - Increased Martin Prado (D/B) - B - Increased Eric O'Flaherty (D/B) - D - Same Kenshin Kawakami (C/B) - C - Same Melky Cabrera (D/B) - D - Same David Ross (D/C) - D - Same Eric Hinske (D/C) - D - Same James Parr (F/C) - D - Increased Florida Marlins Hanley Ramirez (C/A) - A - Increased Josh Johnson (B/A) - A - Increased Leo Nunez (D/B) - D - Same Anibal Sanchez (C/B) - C - Same Renyel Pinto (F/C) - F - Same Andrew Miller (D/C) - B - Increased Rick Vandenhurk (D/C) - D - Same Sean West (C/B) - A - Increased Wes Helms (D/C) - D - Same Cameron Maybin (A/B) - A - Increased Emilio Bonifacio (D/C) - C - Increased Washington Nationals Ryan Zimmerman (D/A) - A - Increased Adam Dunn (B/A) - B - Same Matt Capps (D/B) - D - Same John Lannan (C/B) - C - Same Scott Olsen (F/B) - B - Increased Josh Willingham (C/B) - C - Same Jesus Flores (D/C) - C - Increased Sean Burnett (D/C) - D - Same Ross Detwiler (C/B) - C - Same Ian Desmond (D/B) - A - Increased Alberto Gonzalez (F/C) - F - Same New York Mets Jose Reyes (F/A) - B- Increased David Wright (F/A) - A - Increased Jeff Francoeur (D/B) - D - Same Gary Matthews Jr. (B/C) - B - Same Andersen Hernandez (F/C) - F - Same Fernando Nieve (F/C) - F - Same Alex Cora (D/C) - D - Same Philadelphia Phillies Cole Hamels (C/A) - A - Increased J.A. Happ (C/B) - A - Increased Jamie Moyer (A/B) - A - Same Kyle Kendrick (F/B) - C - Increased Juan Castro (D/C) - D - Same Chicago Cubs Carlos Marmol (D/B) - A - Increased Randy Wells (C/B) - B - Increased Geovany Soto (C/B) - A - Increased Xavier Nady (C/B) - C - Same Sean Marshall (F/C) - F - Same Tom Gorzelanny (D/C) - D - Same Mike Fontenot (D/C) - D - Same Chad Tracy (D/C) - D - Same Micah Hoffpauir (D/C) - D - Same Cincinnati Reds Nick Masset (D/B) - D - Same Homer Bailey (A/B) - A - Same Micah Owings (D/C) - C - Increased Carlos Fisher (D/C) - C - Increased Josh Anderson (D/C) - D - Same Chris Dickerson (D/C) - A - Increased Daniel Ray Herrera (D/B) - A - Increased Matt Maloney (D/C) - B - Increased Wladamir Balentien (D/C) - B - Increased Miguel Cairo (D/C) - D - Same Paul Janish (D/C) - B - Increased Justin Lehr (D/C) - D - Same Pedro Viola (D/C) - D - Same Wilkin Castillo (D/C) - A - Increased Drew Sutton (D/C) - B - Increased Kevin Barker (D/C) - N/A - (Not on Roster) Jared Burton (C/B) - C - Same *Credit to ThirdDegree5803 Houston Astros Hunter Pence (C/A) - A - Increased Wandy Rodriguez (B/A) - B - Same Michael Bourn (D/B) - B - Increased Tommy Manzella (D/B) - A - Increased Geoff Blum (D/C) - D - Same J.R. Towles (B/C) - B - Same Milwaukee Brewers Prince Fielder (B/A) - A - Increased Corey Hart (D/B) - B - Increased Casey McGehee (F/B) - C - Increased Doug Davis (C/B) - C - Same Manny Parra (D/C) - D - Same Rickie Weeks (D/B) - C - Increased Trent Oeltjen (F/C) - F - Same Pittsburgh Pirates Zach Duke (D/B) - D - Same Paul Maholm (D/C) - D - Same Akinori Iwamura (C/B) - C - Same Evan Meek (D/B) - D - Same Ross Ohlendorf (D/B) - C - Increased Lasting Milledge (A/B) - A - Same Kevin Hart (D/C) - B - Increased Daniel McCutchen (D/C) - A - Increased Charlie Morton (D/C) - D - Same Delwyn Young (F/D) - C - Increased Neil Walker (D/C) - A - Increased St. Louis Cardinals Yadier Molina (D/A) - C- Increased Kyle McClellan (D/C) - D - Same Blake Hawksworth (D/B) - C - Increased Brendan Ryan (D/C) - C - Increased Skip Schumaker (C/B) - C - Same Jason Motte (D/C) - A - Increased Arizona Diamondbacks Mark Reynolds (D/A) - A- Increased Miguel Montero (D/B) - B - Increased Juan Gutierrez (D/B) - B - Increased Stephen Drew (C/B) - B - Increased Conor Jackson (D/B) - C - Increased Chris Young (C/B) - B - Increased Clay Zavada (D/C) - B - Increased Billy Buckner (D/C) - C - Increased Carlos Corporan (D/C) - D - Same Ian Kennedy (D/C) - B - Increased Tony Abreu (D/C) - C - Increased Drew Macias (D/C) - D - Same Colorado Rockies Huston Street (D/A) - B - Increased Troy Tulowitzki (B/A) - A - Increased Jeff Francis (B/A) - B - Same Chris Iannetta (D/B) - B - Increased Jorge de la Rosa (C/B) - C - Same Matt Daley (D/C) - B - Increased Jason Hammel (D/C) - B - Increased Manuel Corpas (D/C) - D - Same Jhoulys Chacin (C/B) - C - Same Los Angeles Dodgers Jonathan Broxton (D/A) - A - Increased Rafael Furcal (A/B) - A - Same Andre Ethier (B/A) - B - Same Ronald Belisario (C/B) - B - Increased Russell Martin (D/B) - C - Increased Cory Wade (D/C) - B - Increased James McDonald (C/B) - A - Increased Charlie Haeger (F/C) - F - Same Jason Repko (F/D) - F - Same San Diego Padres Adrian Gonzalez (D/A) - A - Increased Luke Gregerson (D/B) - A - Increased Kevin Correia (C/B) - C - Same Chase Headley (A/B) - A - Same Matt Stairs (A/B) - A - Same Wade LeBlanc (B/C) - B - Same Edward Mujica (D/C) - D - Same Sean Gallagher (C/B) - C - Same Everth Cabrera (D/B) - A - Increased Tim Stauffer (D/C) - D - Same Clayton Richard (D/C) - B - Increased Adam Russell (D/C) - B - Increased Greg Burke (F/C) - N/A (Not on Roster) Tony Gwynn (D/C) - C - Increased Luis Perdomo (F/D) - F - Same Nick Hundley (D/C) - B - Increased Will Venable (D/B) - A - Increased Cesar Ramos (F/C) - F - Same Ryan Webb (D/C) - B - Increased Luis Durango (F/C) - F - Same Mark Worrell (F/C) - C - Increased *Note: There is a reliever named Trever Padres... San Francisco Giants Tim Lincecum (B/A) - A - Increased Matt Cain (C/A) - A - Increased Brian Wilson (C/A) - A - Increased Pablo Sandoval (B/A) - A - Increased Sergio Romo (D/B) - A - Increased Jonathan Sanchez (D/B) - B - Increased Aaron Rowand (C/B) - C - Same Nate Schierholtz (D/C) - B - Increased Emmanuel Burriss (D/C) - B - Increased Eugenio Velez (F/C) - B - Increased *Note: It appears that there are still a lot of A-potential minor league pitching prospects (generic players, not including real-prospects like Brian Matusz, Buster Posey, etc.). Count: A pitchers: 121 A position players: 21 However, the new roster has addressed the obvious potential problems.

*I want to note that my list does not encompass all player potential changes, just some I suggested previously which I used as a reference for when looking through the new online roster update.

[19]

Another researched issue from the OS Minors thread...

Quote: Originally Posted by Sacrafice

My only issue is there is going to be 400+ D position players and only 150+ A/B/C position players not using any created players. There is going to be sooo many guys that should be better and what are the chances that a D guy will go up? Has anyone done some extensive siming to see what the percentage is on this? The ratings you give the guys will be key in the roster set and will be the major player here and I have no doubt that it can be done with great results.

[ty5oke]

I think SCEA might of forgot to up Jose Lopez's potential rating. He's still a D.

Just simmed a season and he hit .291 22 HR 90 RBI and still dropped 8 points overall. He is only 27 and don't see how he would drop 8 points after that season.

In his 2nd season he fell off miserably, .262 5 HR 63 RBI and lost another 8 points overall.

[cibo2]

I think they may have missed Alfredo Aceves as well he is still a D potential.

[Two Seamer]

Quote: Originally Posted by ty5oke

I think SCEA might of forgot to up Jose Lopez's potential rating. He's still a D.

They may have, but it wouldn't be completely absurd if they simply left him a D. He probably deserves a C imo.

[Bamafan3723]

Bump this for Russell. Can a mod sticky it?

[DaoudS]

I was just thinking, why is it a big issue for older player (mid 30s) to have high potential? Does that effect their ratings before the next season start? If my memory serves me right, didn't the rating of the player decrease with age - regardless of potential?

[Slaughter4Heisman]

Glad to see this issue taken care of so quickly. One thing that bugs me is Billy Butler only having B potential and Alex Gordon having A. Butler is younger and had a much better season last year. Butler was A potential last year. I guess hitting 300 with 20 something bombs and 90 something RBI's and finishing second in the league in doubles really hurt his potential this year. I don't get it.