MLB '10: The Show Top 5 Second Baseman

[ATLNYankee]

Quote: Originally Posted by ParisB

god forbid a guy being better at home....take a glance at home/road splits of all the Yankees players, i'm sure you will find some uneven splits

Swisher

Home .226 8 HR's, 27 RBI's, .776 OPS
Away .268 21 HR's, 55 RBI's, .945 OPS

Jeter

Home .331, 13 HR, 40 RBI's, .908 OPS
Away .337, 5 HR, 26 RBI's, .836 OPS

AROD
Home .260, 18 HR, 40 RBI's, .929 OPS
Away .313, 12 HR, 60 RBI's, .938 OPS

Mark Tex
Home .312, 24, 71, 1.013
Away .272, 15, 51, .882

Cano
Home .338, 14, 47, .912
Away .303, 11, 38, .832



Wow, I do not see anybody drop down to a .219 Batting Average with a sub .700 OPS.

[ATLNYankee]

Quote: Originally Posted by dickey1331

LOL you obviously dont know your stats. Hes the Third 2nd basemen to ever have a 30/30 year and the only player in baseball to hit 30/30 in 2009. The past 3 years outside of the Ballpark he is hitting .246 and a .745 OPS. Im sorry that a baseball player plays better at home...actually he plays better at Yankee Stadium. Also in 2009 Sporting News ranked him #24 of the 50th greatest current players in baseball. I can go on but for someone to say hes overrated doesnt know baseball.

He is OVER RATED. I am sorry that you cannot accept it. .246 and .745 for someone on the road is pure crap. Especially when people like to talk that he is the second best 2b in baseball. Let me know when Ian gets a hit outside of Rangers Ballpark. Maybe then we can talk but until then I will be waiting.

[dickey1331]

Quote: Originally Posted by ATLNYankee

He is OVER RATED. I am sorry that you cannot accept it. .246 and .745 for someone on the road is pure crap. Especially when people like to talk that he is the second best 2b in baseball. Let me know when Ian gets a hit outside of Rangers Ballpark. Maybe then we can talk but until then I will be waiting.

Im sure you know alot more about baseball than SCEA and Sporting News. To look at who is the best 2nd basemen you cant just look at batting average and OPS. Please there are more than 2 statistics then that in baseball.

[BKBond007]

I like how selective people are with stats..Hill has a career .337 OBP and Cano..has a career .339 not a big difference

Hill has a career at 2B +6.9 UZR/150 cano -5.2

since Cano didnt have a good 08 we'll use 07 and 09 for HR ands RBIS

hill 53 HR 186RBI cano..44 HR 182 RBI with 08

(these are the last 3 yrs totals..hill only played 55 games, cano played a full season

Hill 55 HR 206RBI
Cano had a total of 58 HR and 254 RBI for those 3 years)


Cano is a better hitter but the other numbers out weigh Cano's

Hills OBP for last year was still better than Phillips and Kinsler..who made the list

Hills AVG was better than Roberts Hudson Utley Phillips and Kinsler all on the list

Lead 2b in HR and RBI

Hill deserves to be there..Cano probably deserves to be in the top 10..which he might be...I dont understand why people have to put down one player to make there player look better. There are a lot of good/great 2nd basemen in the AL east

(I'll be doing a blog starting on thursday with team by team predictions, including Team Record/Starter Records/Team batting/Player batting..might rank the top 5 of each position too just because this is so fun..ugh)

[ATLNYankee]

I am not being selective with stats. Hill had a pretty good 2009, an ok 2007 and has done nothing else since coming up in 2005. Cano has been above average to great every year since 2005. 2008 was a letdown for Canoo but still a better season than 7 out of the top 9 of the "top" 2b.

[a4reak]

Quote: Originally Posted by BKBond007

Hill deserves to be there..Cano probably deserves to be in the top 10..which he might be...I dont understand why people have to put down one player to make there player look better. There are a lot of good/great 2nd basemen in the AL east

Top 10? Try top 5

[BKBond007]

I can see he should be somewhere within the top 10

Cano
(stats are over the last 3 years this not me trying to say he isnt good or deserving, just stop knocking other players to make your point)

Avg 4th
H 2nd
HR 5th
RBI 4th
OBP 13th
OPS 6th
UZR/150 9th
Errors 3rd

The only thing he does well is hit. thats not the only thing baseball players do.

Hell make Cano first on the list Yankee fans will be happy..too many people have the Ricky Bobby syndrome..if their guy isnt first..he must be last..there probably isnt much difference between 4-9. Hill sucks I can live with it...lol

[GEORGE LUZ]

I've been reading these forums for a while, decided to make an account.
Couple things:
-Ian Kinsler is not overrated - he was the only player last year to be a member of the 30/30 club.
-I don't understand how Dustin Pedroia is only a 79-74 on contact when he's a career .307 hitter. He batted .296 last year and .326 in 2008 - his contact should be way higher.