RTTS Pitching: Negative points for outs

[Azamien]

Is it a bug or a design decision that pitchers are given negative points for failing a goal when they record outs?

The two scenarios I've noticed it happening in is when the goal is to strike out the hitter (which is a stupid goal to come from a manager anyway, but that's a different post) and when you're supposed to get ahead of the hitter.

The entire job of a pitcher is to get outs. There is simply no scenario where giving negative points when an out is recorded without a run scoring is in any way reasonable.

I really hope it's a bug, because I can live with those. But if it's a design decision, it really gets my goat because it goes against the realism that SCEA is aiming for with the game.

Seriously, can you ever imagine a manager saying, "Hey, getting him to ground out to short was nice and all, but I wanted you to strike him out, you failure!" I don't think so.

[njd.aitken]

Hmmm.

I've been getting a "positive result" when I end up in a situation like yourself. I have never failed a goal when I recorded an out and no runners advanced.

[masterkembo]

I get "positive results" for those types of plays usually which means I still get 10 points or whatever. Not really a big deal IMO.

The one that really bothers me is when the other team has runners on the corner with no outs and you get the "don't let the run score" goal. You get the double play (because your defence is playing double play depth) but the run scores and you get a failure. That one irritates me sometimes - early in the game everyone would take the 2 outs over the run

[Azamien]

I think I get either "goal cancelled" or "positive results" some of the time, but I often get "goal failed" for the situations I was talking about. So that actually leads me to believe it's a bug rather than a design decision. But I had just had a game where I got failures three or four times in those situations, and it was way past my bedtime when I posted, so I was grumpy.

[Morris544]

Az, when the goal is to strike out the batter and you get an out, you do get -2 points. I know it isn't "fair" but I try to think of it like the manager getting you to rile up the crowd or use it to get the team pumped. Not a huge loss, but if you do happen to strike them out it's either a +15 or +25, so the risk/reward is pretty big. So I think that levels it out.

When your goal is to get ahead of the batter, if they put the ball in play on the first pitch the goal is cancelled. If you throw a strike with the first pitch or a ball with the first but throw 2 straight strikes after that then you succeed.

I understand and agree that your goal as a pitcher is to get outs, but I don't believe they are bugs/glitches. I hope that shed a little light on it for you.