MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

[ThirdDegree5803]

power will be dropped a bit with most players guys....I just want to get that out there...Victor might need a SMALL boost but you would be surprised how things sim out w/ the attributes sometimes...I've seen guys with power attributes similar to or lower than his hit 20-25 HR...no bs...there was, however, a minor boost with some of SCEA's stock ratings this year and I haven't gotten the chance to sim multiple seasons but no doubt JaSnake16 will be doing this when he is done w/ his work...I just got a look at his binder of notes...this roster will be sweet when done...Ja you should post that pic you sent me lol...

[hope4bob]

In the games I've played this year so far vs Red Sox Victor Martinez is a bear to
get out. Seems like he hits enything anywhere near the plate. He's a really good
ballplayer.

I'd bump Ortiz contact down but keep his power up. He may not hit a lot of HRs this
year but I bet the ones he does hit will be huge shots. Phil Hughes had a 1 hitter
going into the 7th vs the Red Sox. The only hit he gave up was a 435 ft blast from
Ortiz.

bob

go Yankees!

[strut24]

I hope you guys got my suggestions about Alex Rios. He has been a monster this year and isn't slowing down. He needs a boost across the board. Contact, Power, Speed, Base running aggressiveness and ability as well as his defensive #s. I understand why SCEA rated him low because of how bad he was last year but he has MORE than rebounded this year. I also am considering switching his batting stance to Generic 43. Theres nothing that good since his hands are SO low this year (ala ty cobb) but Cobb stands straight up which Rios does not. Generic 43 is a decent replacement for those who want to make that change

[JaSnake16]

Guys I just want to say the power numbers you see right now in game will be slightly lowered acroos the board for the most part. Simmed 50 homer seasons shouldnt be commonplace. The 40 homer season as well. The hope is that league leader will be at 40 - 45 homers with the majority of the true elite falling in the 30+ range. Look at last years numbers looks like baseball is going back to the 70's and 80's which is a good thing. Thats not to say there shouldnt be the season simmed with the league leader at 50 but that should be once in a blue not an every season occurance. Bahnzo's program did a great job of replicating this. Just cause guys like Cano need a boost doesnt mean his power gonna end up in the 80s or so.

[Clarityman]

Quote: Originally Posted by ThirdDegree5803

power will be dropped a bit with most players guys....I just want to get that out there...Victor might need a SMALL boost but you would be surprised how things sim out w/ the attributes sometimes...I've seen guys with power attributes similar to or lower than his hit 20-25 HR...no bs...there was, however, a minor boost with some of SCEA's stock ratings this year and I haven't gotten the chance to sim multiple seasons but no doubt JaSnake16 will be doing this when he is done w/ his work...I just got a look at his binder of notes...this roster will be sweet when done...Ja you should post that pic you sent me lol...

In my opinion, that's because plate vision and discipline are very important attributes to consider.

But I don't think, necessarilly, it's being accounted for how power impacts the distance and arc of a homerun. Me, personally, I care more about gameplay than simming. So with low power in the 20's, V-Mart still might have 20 HR's if you sim a season, but in game they'll pretty much all have to be pull HR's if you're behind the controller... that's a reality of the gameplay... in reality he hits to deep center a lot as well.

Obviously, Papi should have high power because when he does make solid contact, it WILL go very far... but his plate vision should be very low because he's become a high strikeout guy.

As for V-Mart, I do NOT think his power should be higher than SCEA's stock... if anything that might be a little too high... but in Bahnzo's editted roster, it's 20 against RHP, I'm sure that's just a mistake, that's lower than Pedroia! There's just no way.

So that's what I was referring to with that. For instance, I can accept Youk's power will be down to be more consistent with the re-ratings of all players, but Martinez with 20 power (if we're going by Bahnzo's) is disconcerting and inaccurate.

[JaSnake16]

Quote: Originally Posted by strut24

I hope you guys got my suggestions about Alex Rios. He has been a monster this year and isn't slowing down. He needs a boost across the board. Contact, Power, Speed, Base running aggressiveness and ability as well as his defensive #s. I understand why SCEA rated him low because of how bad he was last year but he has MORE than rebounded this year. I also am considering switching his batting stance to Generic 43. Theres nothing that good since his hands are SO low this year (ala ty cobb) but Cobb stands straight up which Rios does not. Generic 43 is a decent replacement for those who want to make that change

I hear ya strut, I think I may take him back to his 08 (or was it 07) All Star campaign.

[JaSnake16]

Quote: Originally Posted by Clarityman

In my opinion, that's because plate vision and discipline are very important attributes to consider. But I don't think, necessarilly, it's being accounted for how power impacts the distance and arc of a homerun. Me, personally, I care more about gameplay than simming. So with low power in the 20's, V-Mart still might have 20 HR's if you sim a season, but in game they'll pretty much all have to be pull HR's if you're behind the controller... that's a reality of the gameplay... in reality he hits to deep center a lot as well. Papi should have high power because when he does make solid contact, it WILL go very far... but his plate vision should be very low because he's become a high strikeout guy. As for V-Mart, I do NOT think his power should be higher than SCEA's stock... if anything that might be a little too high... but in Bahnzo's editted roster, it's 20 against RHP, I'm sure that's just a mistake, that's lower than Pedroia! There's just no way. So that's what I was referring to with that. For instance, I can accept Youk's power will be down a little to be more consistent with the re-ratings of all players, but Martinez with 20 power (if we're going by Bahnzo's) is disconcerting and inaccurate.

In Bahnzo's roster it does not take into account his injury plagues season of 08. He only played a handful of games before he was put on the shelf. The raw data shows he hit very little homers because he had very limmited at bats and it prorated that number across 600 ABs to generate the 20 rating. Thats why Im using a 3 year average but my data shows me the 3 years numbers then the average. This allows me to see seasons like this and adjust accordingly. VMart should be a 20 - 25 homer guy but hes a great doubles hitter and RISP hitter.

The rest of your comments are correct, plate discipline and plate vision are as huge as power and contact as well as running attributes. Even for catchers thats where runners take the extra base and you get your doubles and triple numbers. When you see the Phillies youll see Ryan Howard is the 3rd best hitter behind Rollins and Utley because of this.

[bushidonole]

Quote: Originally Posted by ThirdDegree5803

power will be dropped a bit with most players guys....

Why's that?

And you made a mention to Banzho or someone about stamina/program? What exactly is that? Or what does it do?