MLB 2K11 First Look Trailer (720p)

[Radja]

if 2k wants to make money, make your baseball game as good as your basketball game. that game is awesome. because of all the good hype, people have been buying that game who are not fans of the real thing or fans who don't normally buy basketball games.

if you make a game a 'must have', you get market share. if you have glaring inexcusable flaws, you lose market share.

the thing 2k is wrong about is they think they are losing money because of the semi-exclusive license. they are losing money because the product shipped with problems that should never have made it through the door with 2k7 and 8. 2k9 should never have been shipped and 2k10 didn't have errors and injuries, which are fundamental to baseball. they lost sales immediately because of bad reviews and impressions on the sites promoting and/or selling their game. by the time patches were released people had moved on and those sales were gone. some of those negative feelings carried over to the next season and the snowball of disinterest was rolling.

i did not buy 2k10. i will be buying 2k11 partly because there was a lot right with 2k10 but mostly because nba 2k11 is soooooo good, i expect mlb 2k11 to match that with their game this year and finally deliver the game they should have all along.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Radja

i did not buy 2k10. i will be buying 2k11 partly because there was a lot right with 2k10 but mostly because nba 2k11 is soooooo good, i expect mlb 2k11 to match that with their game this year and finally deliver the game they should have all along.

That is a pretty tall order to expect 2K10 to turn into NBA 2K11 all of a sudden. It took years of refinement for that game (NBA 2K11) to get to what it was last year, and NBA 2K10 was not like the MLB game as far as needing a very large turn around.

But for your sake I hope you are right. Would love to have a more competitive market again. But indeed some high expectations.


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[jeffy777]

I really don't see MLB 2K10 as needing "a very large turn around". Yeah it needs some work, but it's actually just a few tweaks away from being a very good game (at least the 360 version). As Radja said, there was a lot right with 2K10. Kotaku gave it the award for the comeback sports game of 2010. I don't care what anyone says: it was a better game than some people here give it credit for, and if VC focuses on the right things, 2K11 could really be a great game. Will it be on the same level as NBA 2K11? Probably not, but it still doesn't need "a very large turn around" to be a great game.

[EnigmaNemesis]

You take what I said out of context.

I did not mention anything about what was needed for a very good game. To be of the level of NBA2K11 (which had years of refinement of already great basketball games every year), however, it will need a very large turn around.

That much is true.

[jeffy777]

Ok, but my points still stand regardless.

[JayhawkerStL]

Quote: Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis

You take what I said out of context. I did not mention anything about what was needed for a very good game. To be of the level of NBA2K11 (which had years of refinement of already great basketball games every year), however, it will need a very large turn around. That much is true.

But the problem is that 2k paid more for the MLB license (I'm assuming) and there is a much larger market for basketball games. So they have less money to throw into the game. Couple that with some serious missteps that have created a seriously antagonistic community, and they just don't have any room for error.

If you read this threads here, you would think that 2K10 was a huge failure. So just making a better game is not enough right now.

I really think that 2K is waiting for the really bad deal they made with MLB to run out.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jayhawker

But the problem is that 2k paid more for the MLB license (I'm assuming) and there is a much larger market for basketball games. So they have less money to throw into the game. Couple that with some serious missteps that have created a seriously antagonistic community, and they just don't have any room for error. If you read this threads here, you would think that 2K10 was a huge failure. So just making a better game is not enough right now. I really think that 2K is waiting for the really bad deal they made with MLB to run out.

In total agreement.

Their game had a much more solid foundation, before they had the exclusive. The Xbox/PS2 versions in 2005 with the ESPN License was a great game, a bit HR happy, but a lot of the games back then were.

[rudyjuly2]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeffy777

I really don't see MLB 2K10 as needing "a very large turn around". Yeah it needs some work, but it's actually just a few tweaks away from being a very good game (at least the 360 version). As Radja said, there was a lot right with 2K10. Kotaku gave it the award for the comeback sports game of 2010. I don't care what anyone says: it was a better game than some people here give it credit for, and if VC focuses on the right things, 2K11 could really be a great game. Will it be on the same level as NBA 2K11? Probably not, but it still doesn't need "a very large turn around" to be a great game.

I agree. Just adding a pitch accuracy slider would have made the game so much better. Adding injuries and errors (inexcusable to be missing last year) will also go a long way.