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Old 02-19-2009, 07:06 PM   #65
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Re: Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: Tigers @ Indians

This last video we watched was cpu vs cpu. You guys do realize that there is a new batting mechanic this year, in that you can determine where the bat is hit, or at least the direction, by manipulating the L stick up-down-left-right, etc... Am I the only one who attributes most of the fly balls that we see get hit to the guy playing the game holding up and in on the L stick trying to jack everything over the fence to show off the homerun balls? Maybe we should wait to see a video or two of Steve not using the L stick at all, and see what type of hit variety there is with no persuasion on the direction to which the player is aiming. During the G4 runup, I saw lots of grounds balls. On the previous videos, I see plenty of groundballs, and some lasers to the outfield.

Perhaps we try not to base the entire game on a pre-release beta build, that may in fact be an even earlier version of what some people are getting now, and wait to see the final release version before we judge it. Does that somehow not make sense?

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Old 02-19-2009, 07:46 PM   #66
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This last video we watched was cpu vs cpu. You guys do realize that there is a new batting mechanic this year, in that you can determine where the bat is hit, or at least the direction, by manipulating the L stick up-down-left-right, etc... Am I the only one who attributes most of the fly balls that we see get hit to the guy playing the game holding up and in on the L stick trying to jack everything over the fence to show off the homerun balls? Maybe we should wait to see a video or two of Steve not using the L stick at all, and see what type of hit variety there is with no persuasion on the direction to which the player is aiming. During the G4 runup, I saw lots of grounds balls. On the previous videos, I see plenty of groundballs, and some lasers to the outfield.

Perhaps we try not to base the entire game on a pre-release beta build, that may in fact be an even earlier version of what some people are getting now, and wait to see the final release version before we judge it. Does that somehow not make sense?

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I agree, you cant win either way, if the video showed mistly ground balls people would complain to many ground balls, if there were to many hits, people would complain. 2k cant win anyway, if anything i am going by what i saw on the G4 video, that looked like a good mix of things. But if anything we will have to wait for the game to come out.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:02 PM   #67
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I hear what you guys are saying and I'm as excited about this game as anyone but this is what an at bat should look like. Watch how good batters are actually patient depending on their skill level. 2k9 does not do this and i have not seen anything that makes me think it does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLkiceO17lg

Not to bring up the show but people wouldnt be complaining about these thigns if they didnt exist. We'd be hearing the developers talking about the improvements made in the AI and physics but we dont. All we hear them talk about are gameplay features they added and different ways to swing hte bat, and revamped franchise mode and realtime environments. That was obviously their focus. That's also marketing. They obviously aren't going to tell you about flaws in the game. They are going to focus on what they actually improved and the strengths of the game, and it's great what they did. This game should be really good and maybe even better than that other game in areas. You hear people complimenting hte commentary and franchise features because that stuff really is great. But It's pretty clear to me that this game needs an update from a gameplay perspective. Did you notice during the developer gameplay walkthrough he doesn't talk abotu this stuff at all? He spends more time talking about the environments than actual gameplay. NBA 2k9 had the same scripted ai and dated physics. It's just a fact that the gameplay and physics engine in 2k games need to be updated. People wouldn't be pointing out these flaws if they didn't exist.

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Old 02-19-2009, 08:05 PM   #68
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And there you have it...in a nutshell.

If there was a perfect 50-50 ratio of grounders to flyballs in all the videos we have seen, it would be unrealistic. If there were too many balls hit to rightfield against a power-throwing lefty, it would be unrealistic. If the wind blew the dust in the infield to the west in Chicago, it would be a travesty because everyone knows the wind actually blows in from the Northeast... It will continue to be a macabre march of the same, unwarranted cheap shots that seem to fester until release day.

And then of course we have to put up with the driveby shootings from some SONY forum ogres who fly in here with 10 posts under their belts and rip off an attempt at some hit and runs with regards to a game that they will never purchase. More often than not, the posts are riddled with misspelled words and terrible grammar, which means that the rest of us who look forward to some stimulating banter, have to weed through the mire of garbage left behind by the ogrish.

I do, however, think it is funny that trying a driveby in a forum, and misspelling half the words in the post, is akin to pulling up to the corner and instead of whipping out the Tek-9 from the window of the Escalade, is more like packing your Red Ryder in your mom's Oldsmobile Cierra Wagon.

I am pleasantly surprised, and cautiously excited about this year's game. Yes, I am among those who have been burned by hoping for more than was delivered, but so far, I am looking forward to a new year, a new game, and from what I have seen, and whole new direction from 2k baseball.

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What? BTW what does post count have to do with anything? I've been posting on this forum for years. I also don't even own a PS3, and can spell better than you can. Just because someone points out something that is true, doesn't make them a fanboy or a sony ogre? It just makes you one with responses like that. Did you watch that video man? I was just posting that because it's true. I could care less about the other game and don't even plan on buying it. Some people seriously need to get a life and learn how to have a constructive discussion without the lame insults. ARe you really saying we can't point out problems we see with this game? And we are sony ogres if we are?

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What? BTW what does post count have to do with anything? I've been posting on this forum for years. I also don't even own a PS3, and can spell better than you can. Just because someone points out something that is true, doesn't make them a fanboy or a sony ogre? It just makes you one with responses like that. Did you watch that video man? I was just posting that because it's true. I could care less about the other game and don't even plan on buying it. Some people seriously need to get a life and learn how to have a constructive discussion without the lame insults. ARe you really saying we can't point out problems we see with this game? And we are sony ogres if we are?

You have been posting here for years? It says you joined in December of 08. Are you a previously banned user. Hmmm

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I had started my post before you even responded. I wasn't speaking towards you or your post. When I hit the "Post Reply" button, your post was above mine. I realized that this was going to happen, but figured you would realize that your post was not one of the offending cheap shot drive-bys of which I was referring to. You didn't. So, for whatever it was worth, I hadn't even seen your post while I was in the midst of responding to the guy who posted above you.

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I had started my post before you even responded. I wasn't speaking towards you or your post. When I hit the "Post Reply" button, your post was above mine. I realized that this was going to happen, but figured you would realize that your post was not one of the offending cheap shot drive-bys of which I was referring to. You didn't. So, for whatever it was worth, I hadn't even seen your post while I was in the midst of responding to the guy who posted above you.

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my bad then. But still. I agree with you that some people say things on these forums just to be dicks, but it goes both ways is all. These forums would be so much better if people just stopped it with that kind of crap altogether. It's old and it goes in every direction. No maturity.
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