Cam Weber: Madden NFL 25 on Next-Gen Will be Fully Featured

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta

Anybody who likes what they have seen in Madden 25 so far clearly has low standards or has lowered their standards from what to expect from a good football game. How can anybody say they like why they see when canned animations are still very prevalent in this game especially in the next-gen version! The tackling is horrid! Players falling over like bowling balls once a tackle animation starts, what happened to IE? wasn't it suspose to make it so no two tackles are the same! It's obvious from what I seen that they have not touched IE when it comes to tackling in Madden 25. Don't see how people can look at the tackling in this game and think it's acceptable.

People see things differently.

Are you telling me Sim's analysis was wrong?

If we all had the same opinions, it would be a boring place.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to hear a wide variety of opinions instead of opinions stacked one way or the other.

[JaymeeAwesome]

I can see the difference between this gen and next gen regarding madden, but it's not worth the $500 investment for a new console that isn't backwards compatible. I give it 1-2 years before I believe the investment is worth it.

EDIT: current gen madden still looks pretty sweet...

[gr18]

Quote: Originally Posted by LorenzoDC

On the fence. Exactly.

If I were to bet I think the game will be only a little better than current gen this year but hopefully makes a big step next year but you never know.That's with all things equal bug-wise.

To some people a little better would be enough as long as you get continued improvement while others may want to wait till they see significant improvement.

I want to add that I do believe that this team is trying to make a better game.Cam Weber does seem genuine in his vision.

[ch46647]

I believe that when this full game comes together, it will be a significant jump over the current generation M25. (Just the new locomotion and OL/DL play alone will make it play and feel infinitely better) I believe we will see monumental differences for Madden 15 on next gen.

One thing I do not like is this zoomed camera angle, I do not think zoomed camera angles do sports games justice, particularly EA's football series.

I have been watching NCAA videos where the camera is panned slightly back and tilted a bit. The gameplay in NCAA 14 really looks light years better. (Literally, it looks so much better then NCAA 13, from a gameplay perspective, its unbelievable)

I believe it is a combination of EA finally sorting out a lot of the gameplay, but I also think that camera (co-ordinator cam) really makes the game look much smoother. I think that camera hides a lot of the wonky animations that have plagued this generation, and really makes everything look and play much smoother.

I REALLY hope that EA adds a camera angle like that to M25 Next-Gen. They have already told Steve that it will not be in M25 current gen, and I am shocked they are not willing to add it. It just seems to make everything pop, and the gameplay look at TON better.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by ch46647

I believe that when this full game comes together, it will be a significant jump over the current generation M25. (Just the new locomotion and OL/DL play alone will make it play and feel infinitely better) I believe we will see monumental differences for Madden 15 on next gen. One thing I do not like is this zoomed camera angle, I do not think zoomed camera angles do sports games justice, particularly EA's football series. I have been watching NCAA videos where the camera is panned slightly back and tilted a bit. The gameplay in NCAA 14 really looks light years better. (Literally, it looks so much better then NCAA 13, from a gameplay perspective, its unbelievable) I believe it is a combination of EA finally sorting out a lot of the gameplay, but I also think that camera (co-ordinator cam) really makes the game look much smoother. I think that camera hides a lot of the wonky animations that have plagued this generation, and really makes everything look and play much smoother. I REALLY hope that EA adds a camera angle like that to M25 Next-Gen. They have already told Steve that it will not be in M25 current gen, and I am shocked they are not willing to add it. It just seems to make everything pop, and the gameplay look at TON better.

I agree, I'm loving the camera angle. I think it's mainly because it looks like something you'd actually see on a broadcast. EA needs to realize the closer you make your game look like a broadcast the better it's going to look. Just like the field goal cams in Madden, why aren't those playable cams? Why don't they use them for replays? So many things wasted at Tiburon and over looked. Next gen they really need to tighten up. I'm tired of one game having features that the other should have.

[GiantBlue76]

I've watched the next gen video for Madden several times and I also listened to the Press Row Podcast where Clint Oldenburgh discussed the logic built into the line play. I know some people are not overly impressed by the idea that the graphical leap is not HUGE, but in my opinion, these are the areas that I have been wanting EA to work on for years. I'd much rather have a game with good graphics and GREAT football gameplay and mechanics than the kind of football game we've been getting the last 8 years. Graphics are a nice plus, but it's really movement and animation that makes the game stand out and be more realistic. If the line play genuinely works the way Oldenburgh outlined it in his presentation from E3, then I'll be very impressed. I'm very interested to see how Next Gen Madden polishes up in the coming months.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by tazdevil20

I've watched the next gen video for Madden several times and I also listened to the Press Row Podcast where Clint Oldenburgh discussed the logic built into the line play. I know some people are not overly impressed by the idea that the graphical leap is not HUGE, but in my opinion, these are the areas that I have been wanting EA to work on for years. I'd much rather have a game with good graphics and GREAT football gameplay and mechanics than the kind of football game we've been getting the last 8 years. Graphics are a nice plus, but it's really movement and animation that makes the game stand out and be more realistic. If the line play genuinely works the way Oldenburgh outlined it in his presentation from E3, then I'll be very impressed. I'm very interested to see how Next Gen Madden polishes up in the coming months.

Exactly the animations, interactions and AI will take it to the next level. Also for me if they can step the presentation up, get accurate equipment and perfect the unis they don't need a huge leap in graphics. I'll be extremely satisfied. Animations are the real key for me though. I want to see athletic players. I'm tired of this goofy stuff. The animations in the trailer are the best from Madden I've seen in forever so, I hope the game looks closer to that.

[ch46647]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

Exactly the animations, interactions and AI will take it to the next level. Also for me if they can step the presentation up, get accurate equipment and perfect the unis they don't need a huge leap in graphics. I'll be extremely satisfied. Animations are the real key for me though. I want to see athletic players. I'm tired of this goofy stuff. The animations in the trailer are the best from Madden I've seen in forever so, I hope the game looks closer to that.

I share both of your enthusiasm for Next-Gen. (Honestly, even M25 on this gen looks very playable, and this is coming from a guy who hasnt enjoyed Madden since PS2)

I think this team, and the suits in charge of Tiburon have finally decided that they want to make a quality, SIM football game. However, Madden is going to need a complete re-write of presentation. My guess is that is going to be a very heavy focus for M15 Next-Gen. I think they are going to focus much less on graphics, and much heavier on real broadcast presentation this generation.

As a matter of fact, one of the top presentation developers (Michael Young) said they had Pat Kirwan from CBS down at Tiburon last week. I think starting next year we are going to see a huge focus on a authentic, CBS style broadcast approach.

Remember the Kolbe from The Show is now a lead designer on Madden Next-Gen, and The Show has incredible broadcast presentation.