Madden NFL 25 - Formation Audibles (UPDATED)

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by juicer420

Answer to this: multiple position eligibility. If a player such as Randall Cobb is on the field, there should be more formations to audible to. Where he is in the backfield and other times lined up outside. Players like this should be used the way NFL teams use versatile players. While also restricting any nonsense with non versatile players.

Did you know Cobb would be successful lining up at RB prior to last season?

This year, when a team inevitably uses some player in an unconventional way, do we wait for EA to update rosters/playbooks? How does this work?

Why not allow what the NFL allows?

Hell, teams put OTs at TE in certain situations.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

Did you know Cobb would be successful lining up at RB prior to last season? This year, when a team inevitably uses some player in an unconventional way, do we wait for EA to update rosters/playbooks? How does this work? Why not allow what the NFL allows? Hell, teams put OTs at TE in certain situations.

I'm guessing you don't know much about Randall Cobb. I believe he is the only player in Kentucky history since Shane Boyd in 2003, to score a passing, receiving, and rushing TD in the same game.

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Cobb does it quite often, not the most versatile slot WR in the league? He plays WR, QB, and HB.

Not my actual point, but I'll take that.

We don't know what Green Bay could do with Josh Cribbs, a former QB. We don't know what any player can do until we see him do it.

This time last year, OS would frown upon lining Cobb up in all these positions. What I'm saying is allow Madden gamers to do what the NFL allows and let player skill sets play out.

[infemous]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

I watch different games than some of you all. In the games I watch, TEs like Hernandez line up at WR/slot quite often. RBs like Bush line up at WR. Teams put RBs at QB. I can't recall a name right now, but I've seen WRs in the backfield just this past year. Jerry Rice used to do it all the time. OS/EA at it's finest. Fix problems by limitation. No, Turner will not be a threat split out. And there are circumstances where a CB will line up over a split out RB/TE. But let's keep asking for & celebrating the implementation of band-aids.

I agree that we should avoid band aids but the real issue is that Michael Turner should not be effective at WR yet he is. Sproles should be though.

The gameplay isn't at the point where we can freestyle, and you can still have a formation or sub that will allow you to play the guy there, you just won't then be able to audible to a heavy run set and have WRs pancake OLBs and DEs.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

Not my actual point, but I'll take that. We don't know what Green Bay could do with Josh Cribbs, a former QB. We don't know what any player can do until we see him do it. This time last year, OS would frown upon lining Cobb up in all these positions. What I'm saying is allow Madden gamers to do what the NFL allows and let player skill sets play out.

This may not be possible but hopefully on next gen they can just edit what a player can and cannot do based on what happens in the real NFL season. I.E. If Tavon Austin lines up in the backfield in STL, then in the next roster update it should let you put him in the backfield.

[californ14]

Breaking from spread formations to a base formation and vice-versa just does not happen in the NFL...Subs are still available in the play call screen, and subs happen in the NFL. So ultimately this fixed a big issue very easily and is still in line with what is seen in the NFL.

Really, It just does not work to come out in a base formation and then audible to a 4 WR set draw play, or any other 4 or 5 WR set, or vice-versa...So it just makes things much easier by just not allowing it to happen to begin with...

When you substitute players in the play selection screen you are subbing within the formation; not subbing outside the formation...


We can still line up Cobb or Cribbs in other positions within a formation; we just cannot change formations through audibles...Seems rather simple to understand....

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

I'm guessing you don't know much about Randall Cobb, I believe he is the only player in Kentucky history since Shane Boyd in 2003, to score a passing, receiving, and rushing TD in the same game.

No, I didn't follow him at Kentucky. An no, I didn't know he would be this successful until he actually did it.

Prior to last season, he wasn't doing much if any of that. With a healthy WR core, does he even get the chance?

I'm not debating my knowledge of individual players. I'm talking about coaching & strategies. What you all are celebrating is limiting what NFL teams actually do. We seem to only be acknowledging when stats are produced. Players line up "out of position" quite often. It dictates match ups, dictates coverage & reveals coverage. Of course not every RB that lines up WR is a great route runner with great hands. But you still have to put a defender out there. Who that defender is is key.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

No, I didn't follow him at Kentucky. An no, I didn't know he would be this successful until he actually did it. Prior to last season, he wasn't doing much if any of that. With a healthy WR core, does he even get the chance? I'm not debating my knowledge of individual players. I'm talking about coaching & strategies. What you all are celebrating is limiting what NFL teams actually do. We seem to only be acknowledging when stats are produced. Players line up "out of position" quite often. It dictates match ups, dictates coverage & reveals coverage. Of course not every RB that lines up WR is a great route runner with great hands. But you still have to put a defender out there. Who that defender is is key.

Cobb is in position to become the #1 or #2 WR at Green Bay in the future, so yes I think he gets the chance. I think he's going to be one of the best WRs in the league in the next 3-5 years.