Madden NFL 25 Brings Back Importing of Draft Classes, Full 32-Team Control & More

[LambertandHam]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Exactly, now all of sudden Tiburon has taken Owner mode to the hilt, lol. Look at some of the threads and ideas around OS, with any number of posters stating "I don't want to have to control all that" yet suddenly everyone is supposedly enamored by NFL Tycoon mode. Beyond the traditional stuff of 32 team control, import draft classes and the basics of Owner mode, I think the majority of people will be delegating that stuff to the CPU. I wonder how many of the people supposedly so excited about a fully fleshed out Owner Mode, ever play HC09. The micromanagement in that game was far more player/team performance based than Tycoon mode, yet many gamers could deal with all that. It's just funny to me the way the Madden community seems to have very little idea what the actually want but they wonder why the game itself has lacked an identity for so long.

With the amount of time I usually put into a franchise/dynasty, Owner Mode is icing on the cake. I actually have more fun building a team via recruiting or drafting/scouting. Again, that is just the way I play.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Exactly, now all of sudden Tiburon has taken Owner mode to the hilt, lol. Look at some of the threads and ideas around OS, with any number of posters stating "I don't want to have to control all that" yet suddenly everyone is supposedly enamored by NFL Tycoon mode. Beyond the traditional stuff of 32 team control, import draft classes and the basics of Owner mode, I think the majority of people will be delegating that stuff to the CPU. I wonder how many of the people supposedly so excited about a fully fleshed out Owner Mode, ever play HC09. The micromanagement in that game was far more player/team performance based than Tycoon mode, yet many gamers could deal with all that. It's just funny to me the way the Madden community seems to have very little idea what the actually want but they wonder why the game itself has lacked an identity for so long.

Why do you keep repeating the same thing in different threads?

We get it. Some people are going to be happy with the additions of the old features they loved and some want more.

It's nothing new from any other year but I don't see the need to continually post the same thing.


I agree it's not perfect but I don't see the need to continually post the same thing.

[SoxFan01605]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Exactly, now all of sudden Tiburon has taken Owner mode to the hilt, lol. Look at some of the threads and ideas around OS, with any number of posters stating "I don't want to have to control all that" yet suddenly everyone is supposedly enamored by NFL Tycoon mode. Beyond the traditional stuff of 32 team control, import draft classes and the basics of Owner mode, I think the majority of people will be delegating that stuff to the CPU. I wonder how many of the people supposedly so excited about a fully fleshed out Owner Mode, ever play HC09. The micromanagement in that game was far more player/team performance based than Tycoon mode, yet many gamers could deal with all that. It's just funny to me the way the Madden community seems to have very little idea what the actually want but they wonder why the game itself has lacked an identity for so long.

This is more an issue of people generalizing than other people not knowing what they want. Many of the people (myself included) excited for owner mode additions have been on EA about it for years. Many of the people who said that they don't care for years are still saying so now...lol. It's a common issue here...OS is made of individuals with their own ideas, but is often discussed in terms of one or two main groups.

It's inaccurate to correlate the lack of identity in Madden to the lack of consistency with the gamers for that very reason. Gamers (as a collective group) are inconsistent in their desires for every game. There is no "Madden Community" beyond the common link of playing the game. EA's developmental schizophrenia is their own mess.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Exactly, now all of sudden Tiburon has taken Owner mode to the hilt, lol. Look at some of the threads and ideas around OS, with any number of posters stating "I don't want to have to control all that" yet suddenly everyone is supposedly enamored by NFL Tycoon mode. Beyond the traditional stuff of 32 team control, import draft classes and the basics of Owner mode, I think the majority of people will be delegating that stuff to the CPU. I wonder how many of the people supposedly so excited about a fully fleshed out Owner Mode, ever play HC09. The micromanagement in that game was far more player/team performance based than Tycoon mode, yet many gamers could deal with all that. It's just funny to me the way the Madden community seems to have very little idea what the actually want but they wonder why the game itself has lacked an identity for so long.

Owner mode is a good addition. Should have a lot more to it. All these things should be optional/automated and those that don't want to do certain things should have the option to automate them.

Then again, presentation, gameplay, roster management, etc should have a lot more to it. And much of this should be optional/automated.

Really, Madden 25 should have been Madden 06 and by now the game should have been all inclusive with options for options.

Here is what I want from EA/Tib. Just keep adding. Don't delete. Don't delete XP progression, but make it optional along with an optional realistic progression. Keep adding. Keep making the game deeper both on and off the field. No more reboots. No more ever changing 3 year plans. Just keep adding. Keep adding features. Keep adding customization/options to features. They do this, and more people will end up happy with the game.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

This is more an issue of people generalizing than other people not knowing what they want. Many of the people (myself included) excited for owner mode additions have been on EA about it for years. Many of the people who said that they don't care for years are still saying so now...lol. It's a common issue here...OS is made of individuals with their own ideas, but is often discussed in terms of one or two main groups. It's inaccurate to correlate the lack of identity in Madden to the lack of consistency with the gamers for that very reason. Gamers (as a collective group) are inconsistent in their desires for every game. There is no "Madden Community" beyond the common link of playing the game. EA's developmental schizophrenia is there own mess.

Perfectly said.

I cannot stand when ANYONE views their ideals more important than others (even if I agree with them).

I just don't understand why it is so hard to understand that some play games different than others.

[jerwoods]

i just am so happy i can play Madden the way i want now
Honestly i am Stunned in a great way that we got these things back so quick
this was a test and if we did not speak up we would have as gamers lost more control in the long run

the thing now is to build for next-gen so we can all win as gamers

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

This is more an issue of people generalizing than other people not knowing what they want. Many of the people (myself included) excited for owner mode additions have been on EA about it for years. Many of the people who said that they don't care for years are still saying so now...lol. It's a common issue here...OS is made of individuals with their own ideas, but is often discussed in terms of one or two main groups. It's inaccurate to correlate the lack of identity in Madden to the lack of consistency with the gamers for that very reason. Gamers (as a collective group) are inconsistent in their desires for every game. There is no "Madden Community" beyond the common link of playing the game. EA's developmental schizophrenia is their own mess.

I think my point was missed, maybe due to articulating it poorly. If before this year, someone were to have made a thread about adding Owner Mode with all the depth being currently touted for M25, even those that love that type of depth and micromanagement options for that mode would have likely considered it too much to expect. Look around this forum whenever someone makes a suggestion for depth in Madden, it's almost conditioned at this point for it to be looked at through a prism of the expectations Tiburon has set this console gen. Now Tiburon goes all out on a Tycoon Mode with seemingly all kinds of depth and nuance but very few people seem to be asking if they could do this, why not other things that have been lacking for 9 years?

To try to put it plainly the idea for this mode in a thread would have been moved to a wishlist and considered a pipe dream a year ago but the moment Tiburon actually does it, it's suddenly all good. I am not hating on anyone that is happy about Owner mode, I think the additions are great but I am tired of the community as a whole limiting their POV about what's a reasonable expectation versus a "wishlist" request based of what Tiburon chooses to do.

I'm probably still doing a poor job of clarifying or maybe I am just wrong and making a poor point, it's been known to happen. In closing, rabble rabble rabble, the NFL exclusive sucks.

[californ14]

Owner mode is nice and I like what is being said and the idea of where it can go; but I would much rather have an expanded Coach Mode, essentially Head Coach 14 in Madden 25.....

Most of the criticisms I witnessed here on OS after the release of Madden 13 was franchise related; not just that things were changed into the CCM, but that players wanted control; more power and freedom/choice in their coaching abilities....