Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

[raiders81tim]

Quote: Originally Posted by OhioBuckeyes7

those 2 rookies are Better passer than cam. just saying.

No way of knowing that until they actually get a chance to play.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gaycandybacon

I understand where you're coming from. With the difference between speed and elusiveness thing. It's just my opinion that the combine proves nothing, because you're in shorts, no pads. If they have to use the combine stats cause they have nothing else then by god use it. It just shouldn't tell the whole story on a player. In 2005 they said Rodgers couldn't run and had no speed, his combine results were bad, But lone behold he can out run some NFL players today.

I can't discuss this with Donny Moore and the Madden ratings "team" so I will with you, lol. Combine data proves that the player is capable of doing those things tested in the time verified. Granted just because someone doesn't run a 4.24 40 doesn't mean they can't but if someone else does, it certainly proves they can. lol

That's my point about verifiable data, it provides scientific evidence for what a player is capable of opposed to conjecture. The whole story should be a combination of all ratings and how they play out on the field together, not using what happens on the field as a basis for ratings in place of available verifiable data.

[Gaycandybacon]

Quote: Originally Posted by OhioBuckeyes7

those 2 rookies are Better passer than cam. just saying.

Not to bite a piece of your last post and throw it in the garbage. But college and the NFL are at 2 completely different speed and difficulty levels. You can be better in one and not the other.

[OhioBuckeyes7]

but all in all even though Rg3 and Luck are better overall passers my opinion. than Cam Newton who is a beast and a good passer breaking records pretty solid for a rookie last year. Newton should be at least a 85 or 81 deep throw ball. it will be updated during the season.

[Gaycandybacon]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

I can't discuss this with Donny Moore and the Madden ratings "team" so I will with you, lol. Combine data proves that the player is capable of doing those things tested in the time verified. Granted just because someone doesn't run a 4.24 40 doesn't mean they can't but if someone else does, it certainly proves they can. lol That's my point about verifiable data, it provides scientific evidence for what a player is capable of opposed to conjecture. The whole story should be a combination of all ratings and how they play out on the field together, not using what happens on the field as a basis for ratings in place of available verifiable data.

You're certainly right about that. If you're fast you're fast, if you're slow you're slow.

[Gaycandybacon]

Quote: Originally Posted by OhioBuckeyes7

but all in all even though Rg3 and Luck are better overall passers my opinion. than Cam Newton who is a beast and a good passer breaking records pretty solid for a rookie last year. Newton should be at least a 85 or 81 deep throw ball. it will be updated during the season.

The main concern with rookie ratings is they're too high for rookies. Rated higher than a lot of vets. Simpily because they haven't shown anything in the NFL. And until they can backup their successful college careers, they shouldn't be rated as high as they are.

[azdawgpound]

Quote: Originally Posted by xxDHAINESxx

I'm sorry, I know Brandon Weeden hasn't played a real NFL game yet and all, but COMON, he should not be rated lower than Colt McCoy!!! That's ridiculous, I don't mind them being close, but if Colt McCoy is a 75 then Weeden should be a 77 or higher imo. Not saying he should be a 77, just saying McCoy is not better than Brandon Weeden, end of story. How many of you would play an online game with Colt McCoy starting for the Browns instead of Brandon Weeden, honestly? (silence)

well weeden woulda been lower except they gave him 2 more points on his MUT card he was only rated a 72 but i agree i'd take weeden over mccoy online anytime. i was waiting to see mccoy in low 60's to upper 60's since he didnt do much last yr. i just hope donny dosent over look browns like he did last yr with our defense and offense. gonna be fun with all new players we have to use online and off.

[Colts18]

Quote: Originally Posted by jmurphy31

Rookie QBs shouldn't be rated in the mid 80s until they prove it on the field. With roster updates available every week during the season, it shouldn't be a big deal. Brady probably has to have a stronger THP to keep his OVR high.

I don't understand why they feel the need to overrate rookies right out of the gate.