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Old 07-30-2012, 11:47 PM   #41
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if this is up to the fans then tim tebow will probably have the fastest rating. dude has a cult following, hopefully this doesnt happen.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:49 PM   #42
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Well, hey, you did say based off their fastest known times. Now you're saying forget about the known times?

I don't know what kind of times Vick is turning over at 31, but Darrell Green was still running 4.3s into his late 30s. It's not inconceivable that Vick can still beat 4.4 ...

But 40 times aside, just looking at what I've seen. I'd still give it to Vick. I know that RGIII is a world class sprinter, but I when I've seen him in pads, he doesn't look any faster at top speed than Vick at 31. Maybe he is, but I don't think it's a hands down argument.
True but Green played CB and I don't ever remember him having any serious leg injuries, only that broken arm. I think Vick broke his leg playing the Ravens one year and he probably has more wear-n-tear on his body the Green. Again though, without some universal formula to account for these things, the verifiable data is the best baseline, imo.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:58 PM   #43
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just saw the three contenders.. my bad. its gotta be vick tho, and im a cowboys fan
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:00 AM   #44
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Re: Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Vote For the Fastest Quarterback

It's Madden, with all its accompanying baggage, so I guess the mild outrage about the fan input is inevitable, but it's really much ado about nothing. Dewiel has already laid it out there. Donny, using whatever methodology he does, has already decided that all these guys are, lets say, 95 Spd. So EA lets the fans choose, and it ends up being 96, 95, 94.

There has been no real change to what they were going to give these players anyway. The fans aren't getting to choose the actual numbers or which players are in the voting, just getting to most likely cause an change of +1 or -1 to a few guys in a few different categories. The whole thing is quite innocuous.

If one wants to question their methodology for getting to that starting number for the three individuals they put in the poll, well that's a totally different argument altogether.
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True but Green played CB and I don't ever remember him having any serious leg injuries, only that broken arm. I think Vick broke his leg playing the Ravens one year and he probably has more wear-n-tear on his body the Green. Again though, without some universal formula to account for these things, the verifiable data is the best baseline, imo.
The broken leg was in his 3rd year, and when he came back you couldn't see any difference in his speed. His first game back he ran up, through, and around the Panthers for 141 yards.

Not disputing that he's got his share of wear and tear, only that there is precedent for a freakish athlete like this holding onto his speed deep into his career. I certainly can't see much drop off when he gets into the open field.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:13 AM   #46
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Vick is 30+ years old if he runs a sub 4.4 I will send you my paycheck lol. Griffin ran a slow 4.38 at the combine. Dude is dam near a world class sprinter. I would say the Vick has better acceleration though.

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Well, hey, you did say based off their fastest known times. Now you're saying forget about the known times?

I don't know what kind of times Vick is turning over at 31, but Darrell Green was still running 4.3s into his late 30s. It's not inconceivable that Vick can still beat 4.4 ...

But 40 times aside, just looking at what I've seen. I'd still give it to Vick. I know that RGIII is a world class sprinter, but I when I've seen him in pads, he doesn't look any faster at top speed than Vick at 31. Maybe he is, but I don't think it's a hands down argument.
It's conceivable but then again I haven't seen Vick workout like darrell green did back in the day.

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Old 07-31-2012, 12:27 AM   #48
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I don't like this voting idea at all.

To me it seems like EA trying to make up for not allowing users to edit players.
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