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Old 08-03-2012, 04:31 PM   #793
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Re: Sound Off: Has the 'Closed' Nature of Connected Careers Turned You Away?

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A few of us have been saying this all along that the reasons things aren't in the game is most likely due to poor direction and design decisions. The only people truly responsible for these decisions comes from most likely 2% of the entire Madden Dev team and the other 98% is just doing what they're told.
I am not condemning whoever made that decision just pointing out how interesting it is that even something like adding UI for an existing function still has to be allotted/planned for when a layman like me would think that would all be a given.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:35 PM   #794
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Who knows but the original Franchisee mode in next-gen Madden didn't even get that UI for editing ratings until M12, so it could just be the way they do things. I am not condemning whoever made that decision just pointing out how interesting it is that even something like adding UI for an existing function still has to be allotted/planned for when a layman like me would think that would all be a given.
Roger that.....I think a lot of people, including myself, don't take into consideration how much work goes into developmental stuff. I just get really frustrated with basic common sense issues that don't get addressed year after year and then new direction that takes the game backwards for so many instead of bringing it forward for everyone.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:52 PM   #795
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EA has been very good at doing the same thing over and over for new features. Connected Careers sounded so awesome in the beginning with the way they were trying to clean up everything. Then the little things start to become noticed. You are now more of a coach than a general manager. Now you can't use custom playbooks for your team. Now you can't use NCAA 13 for your draft classes. Now you can't even choose the uniforms to match what the teams really wear. Now you can't play with the other teams in the league (or even watch them). Why can we have these things for so long only to be told that by not having them, everything is better?

EA always takes two steps forward and one huge step back in everything they do. If the product isn't finished, then don't release it. Yeah I know, money is almighty God but I feel they are turning away some of their most important members; those of the gaming community.

At this point, fantasy football is where it is for me when it comes to any type of football franchise. EA just doesn't care anymore about the single player; it's all about the "online experience" and the least common denominator.
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It has not set me back at all. I'm not the guy who edits everyone or plays all the games anyway. I'm a huge superstar mode fan and franchise mode I just coach so I'm stoked!
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The other thread this was being explained in got closed so I wanted to post this is here because I think it adds some clarification about no editing in CC.



That was a really good explanation, imo, thanks. So it harkens back to when I think CR was stating that it's the UI that would have taken time to design and implement, not the editing itself. Then that goes into what Bucky60 was saying that it seems like a flawed or inferior design decision to not include the UI into the blueprint for CC.
This conversation is opening old wounds...lol.

It's a good explanation for editing, but I would think there has to be more than UI issues in this case. We can't even use custom roster as a base which should not require any UI changes to be able to use. We are forced to use EA rosters. It just seems as though customization at large is an issue.

Now, there is the realistic possibility that these things are rooted in separate issues, but IMO that would only serve to further highlight the point some of us have made about EA's design.

There just appears to be some significant flaws in their process/decision making as they have to move backwards before progress more than any mainstay developer I can think of. At this point, I don't think the reason matters all that much as no explanation will really be fully satisfactory.

14 will be somewhat telling as there will be no excuses or justifications. I hope it gets worked out because I'd really like to be excited about CCM.
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This conversation is opening old wounds...lol.

It's a good explanation for editing, but I would think there has to be more than UI issues in this case. We can't even use custom roster as a base which should not require any UI changes to be able to use. We are forced to use EA rosters. It just seems as though customization at large is an issue.

Now, there is the realistic possibility that these things are rooted in separate issues, but IMO that would only serve to further highlight the point some of us have made about EA's design.

There just appears to be some significant flaws in their process/decision making as they have to move backwards before progress more than any mainstay developer I can think of. At this point, I don't think the reason matters all that much as no explanation will really be fully satisfactory.

14 will be somewhat telling as there will be no excuses or justifications. I hope it gets worked out because I'd really like to be excited about CCM.
Well said and only 390 days till madden 14 hopefully we get back some user control
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:53 AM   #799
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It just seems like it's been an EA thing to limit user customization. I don't know if it's that "we know best" mentality or what. All of the EA Sports games either don't have a lot of customization options or have been slow to add them over the years, when 2K games and MLB The Show have had them since I started playing them.

FIFA's the same way with that play as only one team in a season thing. Live was like that a lot, particularly on the last two generations. I don't get it. These things seem like simple fly ball features that should be in there.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:13 AM   #800
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Next year watch them charge for each roster update, or something ridiculous like different jerseys. EA you are close to losing alot of faithful NFL Madden fans. I get more of a thrill with fantasy football now anyway, so EA hope your listening. I dont like, nor does any of us the barriers being put up in games, forcing us to play with your ratings, 1 team, etc. Im done posting on this bc its just another wall of having less userability imo.
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