When are we going to be able to make these throws?

[cgalligan]

Anyone watching the Monday Night game last night, between the Patriots and Dolphins think to themselves "you can't make that throw in Madden" after seeing this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOqUIxUY9pA

Notice how the CB that was covering Welker didn't "know" the ball was coming... As you all know, if you tried to make this throw in Madden, this ball would be intercepted or batted down 100% of the time...

So, my question to you is, WHEN WE WILL WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THIS THROW???

If I'm using one of the ELITE QB'S in the game, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS THROW... Along with throws like this one...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-presea...000d5d82196de7

Those "backshoulder" throws that some of the NFL ELITE QB'S are making simply CAN NOT BE THROWN in Madden...

Just a few things I was thinking while bored at work

What do you guys think?

[mjhyankees]

Quote: Originally Posted by cgalligan

Anyone watching the Monday Night game last night, between the Patriots and Dolphins think to themselves "you can't make that throw in Madden" after seeing this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOqUIxUY9pA Notice how the CB that was covering Welker didn't "know" the ball was coming... As you all know, if you tried to make this throw in Madden, this ball would be intercepted or batted down 100% of the time... So, my question to you is, WHEN WE WILL WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THIS THROW??? If I'm using one of the ELITE QB'S in the game, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS THROW... Along with throws like this one... http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-presea...000d5d82196de7 Those "backshoulder" throws that some of the NFL ELITE QB'S are making simply CAN NOT BE THROWN in Madden... Just a few things I was thinking while bored at work What do you guys think?

Alot has to do with the catching animations. That said I've had throws similar to Welker's catch where the defender was right there and the ball seemed to by without him noticing. Many times in fact. I don't think the back shoulder catch animation is in Madden...at least I never saw it. Also the directional throwing in madden is not so precise that you can hit any part of the body. You can throw behind a guy...not sure he'll catch it...have to try that one.

[roadman]

I would love to see that stuff in a video game, but I'm not a programmer, so, I don't know how difficult it would be to translate that from real life to a video game.

Pass trajectory needs work, but I think you would need different animations from WR's for back shoulder throws.

I'm also not getting as much mirroring WR's with DB's as I have with past Maddens. It's better than it has been, but still needs some work.

[TreFacTor]

I'm going to guess never. The defenders in madden are able to make plays on balls or the ball carrier without being able to see either. Defenders must always play the ball in madden. That is the only explanation I can logically come to. Defenders never play the receivers movements or motions they just always know where the ball is. Watching games this week I've come to realize that madden will just never get it right. Maybe this is as good as it gets which is sad because I can't see paying $60 for a game that is so flawed and missing so much.

I truely thought this would be a good enough game to make me forget all the next gen missteps, but in true EA fashion none of the improvements were implemented proper and of course there are the other unpolished annyances like bad commentary and draft/trade logic.

[FreAk47]

Quote: Originally Posted by TreFacTor

I'm going to guess never. The defenders in madden are able to make plays on balls or the ball carrier without being able to see either. Defenders must always play the ball in madden. That is the only explanation I can logically come to. Defenders never play the receivers movements or motions they just always know where the ball is. Watching games this week I've come to realize that madden will just never get it right. Maybe this is as good as it gets which is sad because I can't see paying $60 for a game that is so flawed and missing so much. I truely thought this would be a good enough game to make me forget all the next gen missteps, but in true EA fashion none of the improvements were implemented proper and of course there are the other unpolished annyances like bad commentary and draft/trade logic.

Not only that, but without a more advanced passing system...the user can't even control where the ball is thrown really. You can throw a bullet, or a lob...sweet, total control passing right there.

It's been time for a new passing system for like 5 years now, the single button press for throwing should have died with the sega genesis.

[RnRexpress3423]

I know the Fins lost and the defense looked like utter crap but Chad Henne deserves a nice ratings boost after the game he had last night. Looked like a different QB out there and played with some cahonas. If Tom Brady wasn't already rated a 100 in this game he should be rated a 110 after the MNF game. I still hate him and the Pats but damn man that guy is one hell of a QB.

[youALREADYknow]

Quote: Originally Posted by FreAk47

You can throw a bullet, or a lob...sweet, total control passing right there. It's been time for a new passing system for like 5 years now, the single button press for throwing should have died with the sega genesis.

I felt like I had more control over passing on PS1 versions of Madden than I do in Madden 12.

I only see 3-4 different pass trajectories, very few touch passes, and impossible passing angles in the intermediate passing game since CB's have eyes in the back of their heads and LB's destroy passing lanes with superhuman reflexes.

Time for a change indeed.

[FreAk47]

Quote: Originally Posted by youALREADYknow

I felt like I had more control over passing on PS1 versions of Madden than I do in Madden 12. I only see 3-4 different pass trajectories, very few touch passes, and impossible passing angles in the intermediate passing game since CB's have eyes in the back of their heads and LB's destroy passing lanes with superhuman reflexes. Time for a change indeed.

Exactly, they need to utilize both sticks, make it so you can lead a guy, throw behind a guy, throw it high/low, how hard to throw it...and then allow a quarterbacks attributes determine how hard it is for the user to accomplish what they want to do. But, that of course would be innovation, and thats a scary thing.