Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

[CRMosier_LM]

Quote: Originally Posted by dretayla

***steps out of lurkdom*** I was going to refrain from commenting... mainly, b/c at this point it feels somewhat helpless to do so... However, if the most my post will do is add to this thread... the number of Madden players who feel letdown with this news... then it's done it's job. After reading several peoples opinions... Here's my stance... 1. If you don't play online franchise or franchise in general... please refrain from adding your two cents about "not giving a damn..." ...when Superstar mode, online co-op mode, etc... were what you banged the drum for... we supported that cause. Support ours. 2. I've always shook my head at Madden's "attract more users with easier gameplay" marketing the past few years... This is the same game that began with Madden stating if it didn't have 11 v 11... he wasn't signing up for it. Watering down the game isn't what made it famous... Being sim did. Thus, to that point... having the same lackluster... PlaySkool-toy like FA, Draft & Trading deal off-season for the past 3 years is pathetic. 3. "tight schedule of an annual development cycle" - This is complete BS... My occupation is a Process Improvement (PI) consultant... I've worked with several companies auditing their coding life-cycles. When you're the ONLY video game for the BIGGEST sport in the WEALTHIEST nation... You make time. Even if this "tight schedule" is a reality... EASPORTS has the means to throw more resources at this and get the job done. If small code teams in DC can implement major infrastructure changes that impact the SEC (aka how Wall Street operates...) Surely, EASPORTS can get some coders to solely focus on replicating offline franchise to online franchise. Especially, when there's a damn case study in the same umbrella... see: NCAA Dynasty. 4. Can we please stop touting the new gameplay updates at as "features"... these things are called "bug fixes" people. Whenever a product is doing something it shouldn't do or unexpected, it is called a "bug". When you address those bugs ("suction blocking")... they are fixes... Not gameplay "enhancements". 5. Lastly... a message from 30+ crew... Look... Most of us grew up playing Madden... in elementary & middle school... our friends came over and we played hours on end in Madden 93/94/95... etc. Then we went to HS... we still played... just not as long and more independently. Went to college and it was back to the middle lifestyle (lol)... hours on end... with friends over sharing an "offline" franchise. Now... we're older... some have kids... some have wives... some just plain ole have jobs to worry about. The few moments we have to enjoy our friends is via Xbox Live... and it would be nice if we talk smack during the work day... or haggle each other over trades and draft position much like we do with fantasy football. And that's why myself and others are disappointed... True... it may not matter b/c it doesn't impact the game directly... However, Madden appears to be overlooking the indirect impact... The hours people can be talking about the game... while away from the game. Trades... FA... Division winners... Salary Cap... all good stuff away from the game is what is being left out. ...it seems the only folks "Ok" with this news is folks who could care less about the mode... and the "leaguemanager" folks... and quite frankly... I don't have time to learn and maintain that leaguemanager mess... along with my NCAA Dynasty... I can only choose one... NCAA 12 Dynasty... it is... again. Thanks. ***Back to Lurkdom***

Too busy to push one button to update all your stats? Its faster than booting you PS3/Xbox lol

[bigbuddah180]

Quote: Originally Posted by CRMosier_LM

Why do you say that?

what are they going to announce? OF was the biggest thing they had going for them as far as a "REVEAL". running out of time is not a reveal. its an excuse. only thing they can reveal is no more dc's. ahaha and we all know thats not gonna happen so its pointless.

[CRMosier_LM]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigbuddah180

running out of time shouldnt be allowed to be considered an excuses. roy harvey shouldnt be looked at as the savior either. if its not a complete game dont put it out straight up. just another sign that EA is lazy and takes advantage of being the only game in town. this is the most ive ever heard of ppl being ok with offline franchise mode. who plays a game to play the cpu only? shooters are different as far as story mode goes. this is a sports game. player vs player the same thing 3 years in a row shouldnt be ok with anyone who knows where apf 2k8 was 4 years ago to this madden right now. they are behind and stay behind cause they "run out of time"

Because not everyone plays online... i understand that you and your circle of friends play online only but the ratio to online and offline for Madden is about even.

[GiantBlue76]

Quote: Originally Posted by dretayla

***steps out of lurkdom*** I was going to refrain from commenting... mainly, b/c at this point it feels somewhat helpless to do so... However, if the most my post will do is add to this thread... the number of Madden players who feel letdown with this news... then it's done it's job. After reading several peoples opinions... Here's my stance... 1. If you don't play online franchise or franchise in general... please refrain from adding your two cents about "not giving a damn..." ...when Superstar mode, online co-op mode, etc... were what you banged the drum for... we supported that cause. Support ours. 2. I've always shook my head at Madden's "attract more users with easier gameplay" marketing the past few years... This is the same game that began with Madden stating if it didn't have 11 v 11... he wasn't signing up for it. Watering down the game isn't what made it famous... Being sim did. Thus, to that point... having the same lackluster... PlaySkool-toy like FA, Draft & Trading deal off-season for the past 3 years is pathetic. 3. "tight schedule of an annual development cycle" - This is complete BS... My occupation is a Process Improvement (PI) consultant... I've worked with several companies auditing their coding life-cycles. When you're the ONLY video game for the BIGGEST sport in the WEALTHIEST nation... You make time. Even if this "tight schedule" is a reality... EASPORTS has the means to throw more resources at this and get the job done. If small code teams in DC can implement major infrastructure changes that impact the SEC (aka how Wall Street operates...) Surely, EASPORTS can get some coders to solely focus on replicating offline franchise to online franchise. Especially, when there's a damn case study in the same umbrella... see: NCAA Dynasty. 4. Can we please stop touting the new gameplay updates at as "features"... these things are called "bug fixes" people. Whenever a product is doing something it shouldn't do or unexpected, it is called a "bug". When you address those bugs ("suction blocking")... they are fixes... Not gameplay "enhancements". 5. Lastly... a message from 30+ crew... Look... Most of us grew up playing Madden... in elementary & middle school... our friends came over and we played hours on end in Madden 93/94/95... etc. Then we went to HS... we still played... just not as long and more independently. Went to college and it was back to the middle lifestyle (lol)... hours on end... with friends over sharing an "offline" franchise. Now... we're older... some have kids... some have wives... some just plain ole have jobs to worry about. The few moments we have to enjoy our friends is via Xbox Live... and it would be nice if we talk smack during the work day... or haggle each other over trades and draft position much like we do with fantasy football. And that's why myself and others are disappointed... True... it may not matter b/c it doesn't impact the game directly... However, Madden appears to be overlooking the indirect impact... The hours people can be talking about the game... while away from the game. Trades... FA... Division winners... Salary Cap... all good stuff away from the game is what is being left out. ...it seems the only folks "Ok" with this news is folks who could care less about the mode... and the "leaguemanager" folks... and quite frankly... I don't have time to learn and maintain that leaguemanager mess... along with my NCAA Dynasty... I can only choose one... NCAA 12 Dynasty... it is... again. Thanks. ***Back to Lurkdom***

Being a software professional myself for over 15 years and also in the over 30 crowd, this is perhaps the most intelligent, accurate post I have ever seen on OS. Absolutely 100% correct on all counts with respect to the "excuses". That's always been my biggest beef. I've written many posts about it before. It really is amazing.

The one thing I will disagree with you on is the use of League Manager. League Manager is a very nice tool and without it, online franchise is unusable.

[dretayla]

Quote: Originally Posted by CRMosier_LM

Too busy to push one button to update all your stats? Its faster than booting you PS3/Xbox lol

Lol... I'm up for learning new tricks...

I scoured the FAQs and other sources... to see how it was done... couldn't find anything directly. Maybe it's b/c its that simple.

I'd love to see a how-to... so I can take advantage of this.

[CRMosier_LM]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigbuddah180

what are they going to announce? OF was the biggest thing they had going for them as far as a "REVEAL". running out of time is not a reveal. its an excuse. only thing they can reveal is no more dc's. ahaha and we all know thats not gonna happen so its pointless.

I understand you are upset but that is YOUR opinion. I'm not happy about online franchise not being upgraded either but I'm not resorting to bashing anyone or entity. There are other online game modes for them to talk about you know.

[CRMosier_LM]

Quote: Originally Posted by tazdevil20

Being a software professional myself for over 15 years and also in the over 30 crowd, this is perhaps the most intelligent, accurate post I have ever seen on OS. Absolutely 100% correct on all counts with respect to the "excuses". That's always been my biggest beef. I've written many posts about it before. It really is amazing. The one thing I will disagree with you on is the use of League Manager. League Manager is a very nice tool and without it, online franchise is unusable.

lol keep that up man!

[bigbuddah180]

Quote: Originally Posted by CRMosier_LM

Because not everyone plays online... i understand that you and your circle of friends play online only but the ration to online and offline for Madden is about even.

how can u get those stats? you know who plays online because its....online. and by your stance your saying screw the online guys? so sad..they shouldnt be screwing anyone being the only nfl football game out.