Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

No offense, I think you're a cool guy, but I see you do this quite a bit. EDIT: I really mean it that I think you're a cool guy. Maybe a little overly positive when we need to be critical. Differing opinions are good on a message board.

If that's how you perceive me, I'll try to cut back a bit. I didn't think I come right out and use the word wrong, but I'll consider to look it over before I hit send next time.

[K_GUN]

for the guys that are (annually) disappointed with madden....why not update your 2k5 rosters and go about your business?...don't have an xbox?...go buy one...instead of spending $ on madden.

dropping in here every summer and pointing out what everyone who's ever played a football videogame already knows (7 times over ) seems pointless....doesn't it?

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by K_GUN

for the guys that are (annually) disappointed with madden....why not update your 2k5 rosters and go about your business?...don't have an xbox?...go buy one...instead of spending $ on madden. dropping in here every summer and pointing out what everyone who's ever played a football videogame already knows (7 times over ) seems pointless....doesn't it?

Nice to see you want to keep the lines of communication open lol.

I don't make videos. Don't have an agenda other than talking about two of my fav past times. Football and video games. I come on this forum, and the many other forums I frequent to talk about the entity that the forum was created for. Sometimes good. Sometimes bad. I'm just here for the discussion.

I've said a thousand times, I don't come on here to get my ideas in the game. If they see the issue and do something about it, great. If not, I still think that the exchange of ideas is enjoyable.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

If that's how you perceive me, I'll try to cut back a bit. I didn't think I come right out and use the word wrong, but I'll consider to look it over before I hit send next time.

And......Like I said, I think your a good guy.

[Scottdau]

Well, I am not a programmer, but to me if you can't see that Madden 12 looks a lot better than Madden 11. I don't know what to say. Ian and Phil have left their mark on Madden and more important on Madden 12 and I have not been this pumped for Madden in a long time. Instead of pointing out the short comings, why not enjoy the things this game does right. But again I am not a programmer, so I am easy to please.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by K_GUN

for the guys that are (annually) disappointed with madden....why not update your 2k5 rosters and go about your business?...don't have an xbox?...go buy one...instead of spending $ on madden.

Not really a reasonable expectation a consumer should have to have.

Quote: Originally Posted by K_GUN

dropping in here every summer and pointing out what everyone who's ever played a football videogame already knows (7 times over ) seems pointless....doesn't it?

Yes it is. Maybe, after enough criticism and drop in sales, the game developer will change direction and actually get the game as it should have been. The criticism is a positive.

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

Well, I am not a programmer, but to me if you can't see that Madden 12 looks a lot better than Madden 11. I don't know what to say. Ian and Phil have left their mark on Madden and more important on Madden 12 and I have not been this pumped for Madden in a long time. Instead of pointing out the short comings, why not enjoy the things this game does right. But again I am not a programmer, so I am easy to please.

I would never say that 12 doen't look to be an improvement from 11. The extent of that improvement though, or even if it is an improvement at all, is all opinion.

You think it looks a lot better? I think it looks a little better. Someone might think that the improvement is so small that it is basically the same as 11. None of those opinions are fact. Regardless of your programming experience.

[Scottdau]

Constructive criticism is fine with me, but attacking devs and bitching and complaining is taking it to far. Especially when no one is forcing you to buy the game.