Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

Yet, you'll defend them. That doesn't seem much better

As Kehlis stated, I am critical when I deem necessary towards Madden.

I've already stated this once, you don't know all of my posting history in here.

[RememberMe12]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

That's all you've said? Could have fooled me.

I also said that they changed their direction because of the declining sales of the hardcore crowd. Ian told me I was wrong so I said fine.

[bigbob]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

You'd be surprised what I know. Even if the NFL didn't renew in 2013, you think 2k is anywhere near ready to put a football game on the shelf? I can tell you with great certainty they are not.

They absolutely are not, but that's 2 years from now. It's not like they'd have to throw some together in a couple of months like it seemed they did was All Pro 2k8.

[at23steelers]

Quote: Originally Posted by RememberMe12

How is it being negative just to be negative by just saying that I didnt like the direction Madden was headed until this year?

You know Phil and Ian both worked on the game this year!! So if Madden keeps getting better, then why is it positive to see the people who are helping it reach its potential leave? I wonder if someone like Michael Young will be promoted. I bet Adembroski and Donny Moore have an inside joke that they wouldn't share with Ian and Phil, so they both left!! haha

[MattIntellect]

This news sucks. For the people claiming that Phil and Ian held the game back -- stop it. The Madden developers used to frequent these forums constantly, adding last minute changes to the game, and trying to find constructive feedback to improve every part of the game, especially game play. The community was not very cooperative, which is why interaction started to decrease.

Within these last few years, Madden went from being a tourney-style game to more of a sim, with a bright future ahead. Not everyone may agree, but to say that Madden was being held back by these two guys (who has been with Madden since its glory years), is complete ignorance. Madden would be better with them, than without them.

[canes21]

Quote: Originally Posted by ChaseB

I haven't read the whole thread, but don't we have a better picture of Phil somewhere? I want a picture of the new and improved Phil. Best of luck to the guy wherever he ends up, been great to talk/interact with him over the years.

Here is an old post of mine showing a new, slimmer Phil compared to the older Phil.

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

Some of those shots looked great in the background. And Phil.... you gotta stop getting in the crazy poses man. Here is the man(Phil) that worked on Madden 10 and 11... And here is the Phil we get for Madden 12...

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigbob

They absolutely are not, but that's 2 years from now. It's not like they'd have to throw some together in a couple of months like it seemed they did was All Pro 2k8.

to build a game from the ground up? They'd basically need to start now.

[canes21]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

to build a game from the ground up? They'd basically need to start now.

With how much the game has changed, they'd need to basically rebuild They could build off of 2k8, but I think we'd be better off with a brand new foundation. I'm not sure 2k8's engine could handle the wildcat, or other modern offensive schemes/plays.

This is another topic though, I'll stop.