EA/NFL Extend NFL Exclusive License by One Year to 2013

[LiquorLogic]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

You can make a case either way. Someone in here showed where competition didn't make a difference. Basketball games there is virtually no competition.

There's competition in basketball games. During the development of of 2k11, the developers were under the impression that Elite was going to be released. When Elite was cancelled, 2k11 had already gone gold.

[Americas Team1]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Do you really think the developers are putting forth half the effort? If that happened in my job, I'd be shown the door. The developers are part of the whole picture. People have a tendency to forget about the marketing department and the suits above. Marketing has a huge input on the game. In the end, does it really matter where and who you shake your fingers at? It won't change a thing.

From looking at the gameplay, AI, and franchise yes I do. There is no reason for the gameplay to not be better than what it is. The game play is pretty much broken IMO. The AI is just awful it's either way to easy or they just flat out cheat you to beat you.And what about the franchise mode? I guess that the madden just forgot that there's a franchise cause all they've added is a sub-par weekly show.

[LiquorLogic]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

They gather stats on how the game is used, if nobody played MUT and/or it didn't generate an expected amount of revenue it would not have returned. Personally I don't get these kinds of statements, or are people really expecting them to go back on the 'we skipped a year to redo franchise for 12' stuff from last year? Maybe a blurb about franchise expectations and a link to last years announcement about it should be put in the official M12 Information sticky.

It's happened before. Custom stadium sounds were supposed to be in Madden 10, and so were sideline catches. They didn't make it in Madden 10, but showed up in Madden 11. Online franchise, which was server based, was supposed to get contracts and salary caps, well...nothing happened in Madden 10, or Madden 11.

Remember how the ratings were supposed to be stretched out to separate the elite player from the average one ? To this day punters and kickers can hold their own on the oline, and QBs can play in the secondary.

[LiquorLogic]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Do you really think the developers are putting forth half the effort? If that happened in my job, I'd be shown the door.

I'm sure if you made the same mistake year after year after year after year, you'd be shown the door also.

[mestevo]

Outside of something very quantifiable like the stats czar, I have a hard time accepting any assumption that anyone does their job poorly just because there's no competition. I can understand being unhappy with the result or end product, but to say specifically that the people working on the project are giving anything less than their full effort on to make a game is a bit overreaching IMO. It's just not how you keep your job.

If you are saying you were in a position with no competition like some random Madden producer, and you'd do half the job you'd normally do... that says a lot about you, not about that random Madden producer. To then say that trickles down to individual developers, who are trying to remain successful on their own in the industry, hope to grow with the company, continue to be given new projects, brought into new teams, etc.... then that's a ton of just baseless unnecessary speculation just to hate on the project.

[ryan36]

Quote: Originally Posted by LiquorLogic

I'm sure if you made the same mistake year after year after year after year, you'd be shown the door also.

What is it 5 or 6 million people who disagree with you? I'm not pleased with being robbed of the opportunity to find out...but I think more people like Madden than don't. That's just reality. YOU ARE NOT THEIR TARGET AUDIENCE.

[mestevo]

Quote: Originally Posted by LiquorLogic

It's happened before. Custom stadium sounds were supposed to be in Madden 10, and so were sideline catches. They didn't make it in Madden 10, but showed up in Madden 11. Online franchise, which was server based, was supposed to get contracts and salary caps, well...nothing happened in Madden 10, or Madden 11. Remember how the ratings were supposed to be stretched out to separate the elite player from the average one ? To this day punters and kickers can hold their own on the online, and QBs can play in the secondary.

And which of these had blog posts explaining how they would not be touched for an entire year and explaining that effort was being made to rework them and add them the following year? This isn't 'sideline catches' or 'stadium music', it's franchise mode. They go back on that and I'll borrow your pitchfork and blindly hate on them too, but it's not the same thing.

[EddieV]

I don't think anyone questioned the effort so much as the talent. I could spend 24 hours a day for the next 2 years trying to make the next installment of COD, but it would still be a piece of crap. I don't have the same talent as those guys.