Madden's Current Gen Has Not Been a Success

[SpeedyMikeWallace]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Also, you a bit low on the retailer end. I've read where EA makes between $30-$40 on the retail end. So, now you are down to less than 100 million in revenue. Big difference from your original $300 million.

They're still netting over $100 million (the game doesn't cost $30 million to make nor do they spend $10 million advertising it) annually. No matter how you try your damnedest to whittle it down, EA is making a lot of money. There are studios that never even touch that kind of money.

[Segagendude]

If McDonald's was the ONLY fast food joint in the country, they'd be considered a success as well.....no matter how tired (and fat) we'd all get eating nothing but Big Mac's.....

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpeedyMikeWallace

They're still netting over $100 million (the game doesn't cost $30 million to make nor do they spend $10 million advertising it) annually. No matter how you try your damnedest to whittle it down, EA is making a lot of money. There are studios that never even touch that kind of money.

If you say so.

What's you point? I'm trying to whittle it down and you are getting upset. You are trying to whittle it up and it's not bothering me at all.

We each have our different opinions, time to move on and out.

[SpeedyMikeWallace]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

If you say so. What's you point? I'm trying to whittle it down and you are getting upset. You are trying to whittle it up and it's not bothering me at all. We each have our different opinions, time to move on and out.

My point is that the game makes a lot of money, which it does.

I'm not getting upset, at all. I'm just trying to show you that the game makes EA a lot of money, even with all of the costs.

Facts are not a matter of opinion. It either is or it isn't. EA is making a lot of money off of Madden.

[lofeazy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Segagendude

If McDonald's was the ONLY fast food joint in the country, they'd be considered a success as well.....no matter how tired (and fat) we'd all get eating nothing but Big Mac's.....

Thats is so true.(To bad some people can't see that.)

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpeedyMikeWallace

They're still netting over $100 million (the game doesn't cost $30 million to make nor do they spend $10 million advertising it) annually. No matter how you try your damnedest to whittle it down, EA is making a lot of money. There are studios that never even touch that kind of money.

All of your numbers are based on actual sales. Your leaving out dlc like Madden moments, MUT cards, online franchise, elite status, afl packs, franchise boosts, not to mention advertising revenue from old spice, doritos, snickers, subway and they also get revenue from the facebook app.

All this money is collected annually off a game that requires much less in development since they are simply building off a core game designed 6 years ago and not starting from scratch.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpeedyMikeWallace

My point is that the game makes a lot of money, which it does. I'm not getting upset, at all. I'm just trying to show you that the game makes EA a lot of money, even with all of the costs. Facts are not a matter of opinion. It either is or it isn't. EA is making a lot of money off of Madden.

When you initially tried the $60.00 X 5 million, that is when I piped in and mentioned you are forgetting cost.

Also, KJ is correct, there is much more revenue streaming in from MUT, in game advtsg, etc.....

My whole point to you was to illustrate to you was not to forget costs, which it appears you did in your initial post.

Anyway, FIFA is more of a cash cow than Madden is.

And if Madden was doing so well money making wise, EA's stock would be much higher.

[SpeedyMikeWallace]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

When you initially tried the $60.00 X 5 million, that is when I piped in and mentioned you are forgetting cost.

I don't recall ever saying that EA takes in 100% of 59.99 x 5 million. I said, with that kind of money, there's pretty much 0 chance EA isn't making A LOT of money.

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Also, KJ is correct, there is much more revenue streaming in from MUT, in game advtsg, etc.....

Which further proves that EA is making a lot of money off of the game.

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

My whole point to you was to illustrate to you was not to forget costs, which it appears you did in your initial post.

I never forgot costs. I just never believed that they were so large that the game wasn't turning a profit.

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Anyway, FIFA is more of a cash cow than Madden is. And if Madden was doing so well money making wise, EA's stock would be much higher.

Why would Madden's sales lead to greater stock performance by EA when it isn't even the biggest title it's own division: EA Sports? You're not taking into account how many games EA makes or that not all of the games they make are successful. The successful games allow EA to not go bankrupt when a game fails.

And, if I remember correctly, EA's stock took a nice jump after they signed the deal with the NFL.