Why can't EA add physics to madden?

[arz9278]

I know this has been discussed a lot but players just jumping onto the floor during tackles takes so much away from the game. Is there a real reason EA keeps evading from making proper adjustments? I've seen a few videos of 2k successfully doing this years ago. If EA just made this change Madden would be 100x the game and i honestly wouldn't mind if they renewed the exclusivity deal.

[Badluck]

People will buy Madden no matter what so why spend the money and waste the time?

[maddenps2]

I don't think 2k ever really had true physics, but whatever they used, it was alot better than what madden is currently using. And if I remember EA said a few years back that euphoria tech isn't at a point where it can be used in a football game. Guess we have to believe them.

[Valdarez]

Yeah, some of the hits/tackles look really off. There's supposed to be momentum, but if there is, it doesn't seem to have much to do with the tackles. I love several of the end of run animations, like the tripped up and continue to run forward but fall down, and the one where someone jumps on their back and they carry them. But the general tackles, it's like the person just stops in place and then falls forward. No sense of momentum or fighting for the yardage (except for ProTak gang tackles, which has pros and cons itself).

[ChampN252]

It would require them using a new engine. I'm under the believe they have never redone it, but have been modifying it.

[Cryolemon]

Quote: Originally Posted by maddenps2

And if I remember EA said a few years back that euphoria tech isn't at a point where it can be used in a football game. Guess we have to believe them.

Why do we have to believe them?

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by maddenps2

And if I remember EA said a few years back that euphoria tech isn't at a point where it can be used in a football game. Guess we have to believe them.

Ian's the one that said if they used it, you'd have to give up things like fighting for extra yardage and such (something they didn't really have all that much in the game at the time). That statement was bogus though, as you can code custom actions for any interaction. So they could have triggered a 'grab' animation, or a 'hang on' animation and the effects of it would have overridden the natural collision that would have occurred. There's zero reason it couldn't have been used. Madden would have been on far more solid ground moving forward had they chosen to use it.

Next thing for M12 that needs to be addressed is tackling in general. The types of tackles, at least a two or three impact tackle so we see momentum in play at all times. I would have preferred that over the ProTak impl they did in M10.

[Jimixiii]

because it's too hard for them or too much money & time they don't wanna spend or they just don't care.