XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

[XFLOutLaw]

These sliders are not made to make the game harder but to make the gameplay more realistic to its NFL counterparts.



Ok this is my first ever attempt to create sliders for a madden game and I think I did pretty good. I've read up on other sliders and tested others and there are some good ones out there like.....http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football-sliders/359141-dfos81s-sliders-slow-speed-ready-testing.html....and...http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football-sliders/347566-playmakers-madden-10-custom-sliders.html. After a few of you guys tested my sliders i was told CPU couldnt really establish a running game expecially teams with fast backs. After a couple days of review and slider tests, the threshold of 60 wasnt very good for fast backs who normally arent great tackle breakers. So I've played a couple of games and test through the practice mode and I think i have found a good slider set that makes the game similar to a real NFL and allowing fast backs to make impacts on the games like they should.

Here are the stats form my game I just played with the new slider sets the game was an offensive shootout like it would be in real life for both teams.


Game Stats: Green Bay Packers at New Orleans Saints (ME)

Score:
GB 31 NO 45

Total Offense:
GB 470 NO 403

Rushing:
GB 163 NO 115

Passing:
GB 307 No 268

First Downs:
GB 16 NO 16

Total Yards:
GB 706 NO 642

Turnovers:
GB 1 NO 1

3RD Down:
GB 9-14 (64%) NO 10-13 (76%)

Red Zone:
GB 3-4 (75%) NO 4-4 (100%)

TOP:
GB 24:59 NO 27:01

Total Plays: GB 60 NO 53 (113)

Player Stats:
Passing:

• GB A.Rodgers rtg 108.0 Comp 28 Att 40 yds 317 comp% 70 td 3 int 1 avg 7.9 long 51
• NO D.Brees rtg 126.2 comp 18 att 28 yds 308 comp% 64 td 4 int 1 avg 11.0 long 54

Rushing:

• NO P.Thomas att 23 yds 109 avg 4.7
• NO R.Bush att 2 yds 6 avg 3.0 td 1
• GB R.Grant att 18 yds 149 avg 8.2 td 1
• GB B.Jackson att 1 yds 18 avg 18.0

Receiving:

• GB D.Driver rec 9 yds 93 avg 10.3
• GB J.Nelson rec 5 yds 103 avg 20.6 td 2
• GB G.Jennings rec 4 yds 56 avg 14.0
• NO M.Colston rec 4 115 avg 28.7 td 2
• NO J.Shockey rec 3 yds 63 avg 21.0
• NO R.Meachem rec 3 yds 61 avg 20.3 td 1

Defense:

• NO S.Shanle Solo 4 Ast 1 INT 1
• NO S.Fujita Solo 4 Ast 1 TFL 1
• NO J.Vilma Solo 4 Ast 2 TFL 1
• GB C.Matthews Solo 4 Ast 2 TFL 3 Sack 2
• GB A.Harris Solo 3
• GB A.Hawk Solo 3 AST 2 TFL 3 sack 1

Now with the new sliders......

Game Settings
Game Speed Slow
Player Min Speed Threshold 50
Play Style Hardcore
Fight for the Fumble Off

13 Min Qrts
20 sec runoff

Penalty Settings
PENALTIES EVERYTHING AT 100 ACCEPT HOLDING-52, FACEMASK-67, CLIPPING-77. based off of
Playmakers Madden 10 Custom Sliders


Player Skill:
Passing 12
QB Acc: 50
Pass Blocking: 24
WR Catching: 40

Rushing 15
Broken Tackles: 27
Run Blocking: 20
Fumbles: 30

Pass Defense 15
Reaction Time: 18
Interceptions: 5
Pass Rushing: 55

Rush Defense 10
Reaction Time: 90 for a more realistic defensive flow for running plays
Block Shedding: 20
Tackling: 30


CPU Skills

Passing 10
QB Accuracy: 50
Pass Blocking: 48
WR Catching: 41

Rushing 10
Broken Tackles: 47
Run Blocking: 61
Fumbles: 30

Pass Defense 12
Reaction Time: 45
Interceptions: 5
Pass Rushing: 59

Rush Defense 7
Reaction Time: 100 again to emulate real defense reaction time against the run
Block Shedding: 50
Tackling: 34

Special Teams Sliders
Field Goal Power: 51
Punt Power: 52
Kickoff Power: 47 right outside the goalline like kickoffs in real life

Optional Sliders :
Fight for the Fumble Off

Sub Out/Sub In Sliders: based off of DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed) good auto sub slider set for more realistic subs star players not in all the time (tired)

Offense
QB: 0/80
RB: 79/80
WR: 79/80
FB: 60/80
OL: 60/80

Defense
DT: 79/80
DE: 79/80
LB: 40/80
CB: 40/80
S: 40/80


PLEASE PLAY A COUPLE OF GAMES WITH THESE AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THEM AND POST STATS OF A GAME IF YOU'D LIKE FOR BETTER FEEDBACK THANKS!!!!!


UPDATES WILL BE IN BOLD BLACK

[JkA3]

Interesting. I like what I see. I'll give them a shot to see how they play out and post my results (likely on Tuesday).

[XFLOutLaw]

Quote: Originally Posted by all-en

Interesting. I like what I see. I'll give them a shot to see how they play out and post my results (likely on Tuesday).

Please do...im interested to see if someone else has good results like i did.

[jonmchugh007]

Hey mate just played a Play Now game using Texans (me) vs Giants. It was a fun game to play I scored on a 1 yard run by Steve Slaton with 30 seconds left to take lead 23-20.fficeffice" />>>
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It was a defensive game for the most part. The Giants played great defense shutting me out 3-0 in the 1^st quarter. I in return shut them out in the 2^nd quarter Manning couldn’t get anything going at all. Something really weird happened in the 2^nd. I had a great drive going mid-way through the quarter. Steve Slaton broke a 20 yard run and ran it down at the 1 yard line. He lost the ball trying to leap into the endzone and the Giants recovered the ball at their own 1 yard line. The very next play I pick Manning off and walk the ball into the endzone to take a 13-3 lead. That right there was the play of the game. In the 3^rd, Manning hooked up with Hixon on a 62 yard TD pass to make the score 13-10. Late in the 3^rd, I had a nice drive going getting to about midfield. Hand the ball to Slaton and he caughs the ball up again. Another turnover. The Giants take advantage and march down the field on a 7 minute drive and cap it off on a 14 yard TD catch by Boss. Score is 17-14 Giants going into the 4^th quarter.>>
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I tied the game at 17 a piece on a 40 yard FG with 9:54 remaining. It went back and forth defensively until Tynes hit a 44 yarder with 2:53 to play and made the score 20-17 Giants. I get the ball back with 2:30 left to play and drive down the field. I have 1^st and goal at the 1 yard line with 20 seconds left, hand it off to Slaton who dives in for the game winning score. I win 23-17.>>
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It was a really fun game. The giants passed well, played good defense and gave me a good dose of Jacobs and Bradshaw. I would like to see the CPU run more maybe up the human rush D reaction time by 10 or so? I think that would do it. >>
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Here are some stats:>>
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Giants: 3, 0, 14, 3: 20>>
Texans: 0, 13, 0, 10: 23>>
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Giants / Texans>>
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Total offense: 344 / 332 >>
Rushing yards: 59 / 63>>
Passing yards: 285 / 269>>
First downs: 13 / 16>>
Turnovers: 1 / 2 >>
3^rd down: 6-11 / 6-10>>
T.O.P: 19:59 / 28:01>>
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So just by looking at those stats it was a pretty fairly evenly matched game and a fun game to play. Here are some player numbers>>
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Schaub: 21 / 31, 276 yards,>>
Manning: 18 / 30, 285 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT>>
Slaton: 18 carries / 54 yards 1 TD / 6 catches / 95 yards>>
Jacobs: 14 carries / 48 yards >>
Bradshaw: 2 carries / 7 yards>>
Smith: 5 rec / 80 yards>>
Boss: 2 rec / 26 yards 1TD>>
Johnson: 8 rec / 78 yards >>
Daniels: 6 rec / 93 yards>>
There you have it. Sorry for the long write up thought you’d like some detailed info for testing. Will play some more games tomorrow.>>
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Overall, good and fun game to play. Very competitive. Never thought like I was out of the game nor did I feel I was in control the entire game.>>
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Keep up the great work, Jon>>

[XFLOutLaw]

Quote: Originally Posted by jonmchugh007

Hey mate just played a Play Now game using Texans (me) vs Giants. It was a fun game to play I scored on a 1 yard run by Steve Slaton with 30 seconds left to take lead 23-20.fficeffice" />>> >> It was a defensive game for the most part. The Giants played great defense shutting me out 3-0 in the 1st quarter. I in return shut them out in the 2nd quarter Manning couldn’t get anything going at all. Something really weird happened in the 2nd. I had a great drive going mid-way through the quarter. Steve Slaton broke a 20 yard run and ran it down at the 1 yard line. He lost the ball trying to leap into the endzone and the Giants recovered the ball at their own 1 yard line. The very next play I pick Manning off and walk the ball into the endzone to take a 13-3 lead. That right there was the play of the game. In the 3rd, Manning hooked up with Hixon on a 62 yard TD pass to make the score 13-10. Late in the 3rd, I had a nice drive going getting to about midfield. Hand the ball to Slaton and he caughs the ball up again. Another turnover. The Giants take advantage and march down the field on a 7 minute drive and cap it off on a 14 yard TD catch by Boss. Score is 17-14 Giants going into the 4th quarter.>> > > I tied the game at 17 a piece on a 40 yard FG with 9:54 remaining. It went back and forth defensively until Tynes hit a 44 yarder with 2:53 to play and made the score 20-17 Giants. I get the ball back with 2:30 left to play and drive down the field. I have 1st and goal at the 1 yard line with 20 seconds left, hand it off to Slaton who dives in for the game winning score. I win 23-17.>> > > It was a really fun game. The giants passed well, played good defense and gave me a good dose of Jacobs and Bradshaw. I would like to see the CPU run more maybe up the human rush D reaction time by 10 or so? I think that would do it. >> > > Here are some stats:>> > > Giants: 3, 0, 14, 3: 20>> Texans: 0, 13, 0, 10: 23>> > > Giants / Texans>> > > Total offense: 344 / 332 >> Rushing yards: 59 / 63>> Passing yards: 285 / 269>> First downs: 13 / 16>> Turnovers: 1 / 2 >> 3rd down: 6-11 / 6-10>> T.O.P: 19:59 / 28:01>> > > So just by looking at those stats it was a pretty fairly evenly matched game and a fun game to play. Here are some player numbers>> > > Schaub: 21 / 31, 276 yards,>> Manning: 18 / 30, 285 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT>> Slaton: 18 carries / 54 yards 1 TD / 6 catches / 95 yards>> Jacobs: 14 carries / 48 yards >> Bradshaw: 2 carries / 7 yards>> Smith: 5 rec / 80 yards>> Boss: 2 rec / 26 yards 1TD>> Johnson: 8 rec / 78 yards >> Daniels: 6 rec / 93 yards>> There you have it. Sorry for the long write up thought you’d like some detailed info for testing. Will play some more games tomorrow.>> > > Overall, good and fun game to play. Very competitive. Never thought like I was out of the game nor did I feel I was in control the entire game.>> > > Keep up the great work, Jon>>

It sounded like it was a good game...as far as the computer running the ball more there isnt much you can change about their play calling unless you create a franchise controlling all 32 teams and move their run/pass ratio to favor more of the run but i noticed that too... and as far as me changing the human def reaction +10 thats a little high maybe 3-5 range will be good ill have to play around with it to see... I will be playing games to update the slider for a more real feel to the game constantly so continue to check back if i notice more of the problems with the fumbles too...also thank you for you feedback.

[Young_Chaos]

Giants(me)59 vs Philly(cpu)7

Passing
Manning 22-29 283yds 3td 1int

McNabb 17-26 177yds 1td 1int

Rushing
Jacobs 28att 148yds 2tds
Bradshaw 3att 19yds 1td
Hedgecock 1att 9yds
Manning 1att -2yds

Westbrook 13att 39yds
McNabb 2att 1yd

Receiving
Smith 8rec 122yds 2td
Boss 7rec 92yds 1td
Jacobs 4rec 29yds
Hixon 2rec 31yds
Johnson 1rec 9yds

Maclin 7rec 100yds 1td
Westbrook 5rec 28yds
Jackson 2rec 18yds
Weaver 1rec 1yd
Celek 1rec 21yds
Curtis 1rec 9yds

Defense
1int 1fumble 2td

1int

Other
3rd(giants) 6-7
3rd(eagles) 4-11
3penalties for each team

Possession time
Giants 33:14
Eagles 18:46

Thoughts
The game felt pretty good and the stats were pretty good. It was just one of those games where everything just went my way and the eagles could never get anything going. Despite the score i think we should make their run game slightly better. I know we dnt want speed backs numbers getting inflated but westbrook should be way better even against a great defense like the giants. Sorry for the long post but i plan on trying to help you create the best game possible. Great Base though

[XFLOutLaw]

Quote: Originally Posted by Young_Chaos

Giants(me)59 vs Philly(cpu)7 Passing Manning 22-29 283yds 3td 1int McNabb 17-26 177yds 1td 1int Rushing Jacobs 28att 148yds 2tds Bradshaw 3att 19yds 1td Hedgecock 1att 9yds Manning 1att -2yds Westbrook 13att 39yds McNabb 2att 1yd Receiving Smith 8rec 122yds 2td Boss 7rec 92yds 1td Jacobs 4rec 29yds Hixon 2rec 31yds Johnson 1rec 9yds Maclin 7rec 100yds 1td Westbrook 5rec 28yds Jackson 2rec 18yds Weaver 1rec 1yd Celek 1rec 21yds Curtis 1rec 9yds Defense 1int 1fumble 2td 1int Other 3rd(giants) 6-7 3rd(eagles) 4-11 3penalties for each team Possession time Giants 33:14 Eagles 18:46 Thoughts The game felt pretty good and the stats were pretty good. It was just one of those games where everything just went my way and the eagles could never get anything going. Despite the score i think we should make their run game slightly better. I know we dnt want speed backs numbers getting inflated but westbrook should be way better even against a great defense like the giants. Sorry for the long post but i plan on trying to help you create the best game possible. Great Base though

I was thinking the same thing but i wasnt too sure....the thing that is probably killing westbrook is that threshold....it isnt the best for fast rbs....ill look in to it...maybe better blocking for cpu thanks for your input working on it now

[XFLOutLaw]

ok big update coming..needed for fast players to make impact in game just payed a game of my own and the westbrook was shut down for like 1.7 yrds a carry working hard to put update out soon


fast players should make and impact like so...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am7JQ5P0Es8.....skip to 0:15...not always like this but a big difference in what we are getting now in the game