Absurd CFM Regression... STILL

[PhillyPhanatic14]

I literally don't understand regression in this game. I rushed for 1120 and 11 TDs with Lamar Miller and at age 27 his speed acceleration and agility all went down to 90. Some other stats went down as well. That is crazy unrealistic. 27 is young and he was top 5 in the league in all of those categories, yet Madden decides that he has to regress because of some uneducated algorithm in the game.

They need to fix this.

[mtmetcalfe]

Sorry to hear you’re upset with the regression but to your post that sounds spot on to me. Running backs don’t tend to last long. The league cycles through players at pretty fast rate and for Madden to represent that in the game age regression has to be respected.

Curious does Lamar have a normal dev trait? That does (and should) make a difference.

[GameBreaker35]

If regression was more focused on being grounded in reality, players would suffer far less reductions in their tangible and intangible ratings and instead focus on steep reductions in ratings related to fatigue, injury, toughness, and slight reduction in physical ratings.

They would need to better design systems that support this though. What if players didn’t play with injuries on for example. This is the main reason they do this: keeps realistic league turnover but at the cost of realistic reasoning.


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[schnaidt1]

they have to have players regress that rate because they throw 80s on everyone.... excuse me but what has Hunter henry done this year to be an 87 ovr? i know Brissett has had some decent games against some bad teams...but an 80 ovr?? this is just beyond embarrassing

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[IcedCoffee1983]

Quote: Originally Posted by GameBreaker35

If regression was more focused on being grounded in reality, players would suffer far less reductions in their tangible and intangible ratings and instead focus on steep reductions in ratings related to fatigue, injury, toughness, and slight reduction in physical ratings. They would need to better design systems that support this though. What if players didn’t play with injuries on for example. This is the main reason they do this: keeps realistic league turnover but at the cost of realistic reasoning. Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

This is a good way to describe things. Very few RB's make it past 27 in the NFL, but this is a hamfisted way to represent that in Madden.

I dont like it either, but its better than having a league of 30-something RB's zipping around in good health.

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Quote: Originally Posted by mtmetcalfe

Sorry to hear you’re upset with the regression but to your post that sounds spot on to me. Running backs don’t tend to last long. The league cycles through players at pretty fast rate and for Madden to represent that in the game age regression has to be respected. Curious does Lamar have a normal dev trait? That does (and should) make a difference.

So leading the league in rushing means your stats go down? McCoy started this year with 98 agility, but he is 29. If you think this regression system is an accurate way to represent reality then McCoy should suck and his agility should have been a 90 (since they won't let it go below 90), despite his on-field performance, because he is older than 27.

That makes 0 sense. Jamaal Charles is over 30 and his default speed agility and accel ratings are above 90.

The problem is that Madden's regression system is a default, across the board cut of -2 to speed agility acceleration and some other ratings once players hit 27, regardless of their performance and that's just not realistic.

[IcedCoffee1983]

Quote: Originally Posted by PhillyPhanatic14

So leading the league in rushing means your stats go down? McCoy started this year with 98 agility, but he is 29. If you think this regression system is an accurate way to represent reality then McCoy should suck and his agility should have been a 90 (since they won't let it go below 90), despite his on-field performance, because he is older than 27. That makes 0 sense. Jamaal Charles is over 30 and his default speed agility and accel ratings are above 90. The problem is that Madden's regression system is a default, across the board cut of -2 to speed agility acceleration and some other ratings once players hit 27, regardless of their performance and that's just not realistic.

Oh yeah its totally un-realistic. With the way regression works in All-Madden players like Jamaal Charles, Megatron, Tom Brady, or Brett Favre will never exist.

What would be best (if EA took 2 seconds to think about this) is every time a new player is generated for a Rookie Draft randomly assign them a "regression begins now" age. For some RB's it might be age 27, some sooner at age 25, some later at age 30. This regression age could be a hidden figure that we cannot see, so that way you dont really know at what age that young RB you drafted will begin to regress.

If they just did that, it would be SO much better.

[mtmetcalfe]

Quote: Originally Posted by PhillyPhanatic14

So leading the league in rushing means your stats go down? McCoy started this year with 98 agility, but he is 29. If you think this regression system is an accurate way to represent reality then McCoy should suck and his agility should have been a 90 (since they won't let it go below 90), despite his on-field performance, because he is older than 27. That makes 0 sense. Jamaal Charles is over 30 and his default speed agility and accel ratings are above 90. The problem is that Madden's regression system is a default, across the board cut of -2 to speed agility acceleration and some other ratings once players hit 27, regardless of their performance and that's just not realistic.

I’m not disagreeing with you that I’d like to see a different approach to regression. I’m hoping this will be part of a massive cfm upgrade next year.

As far as his “stats going” down I’m guessing you are referring to physical regression? Just because a player leads the league in rushing doesn’t mean that he isn’t starting to come up against father time. You can still be productive and not be the physical specimen you once were.