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[oneamongthefence]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoshC1977

And for doubters out there...these two statements are directly related. If you just do 'push button passing', you're going to have issues with it being too easy to pass. If you use all the passing mechanics, it is MUCH more realistic.

But isn't that the opposite of what it should be?

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[SmashMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoshC1977

And for doubters out there...these two statements are directly related. If you just do 'push button passing', you're going to have issues with it being too easy to pass. If you use all the passing mechanics, it is MUCH more realistic.

This is my experience too. I've used them at times all year but I would fall back into just hitting the button to pass. I've really made an effort over the last month to break that habit and use the mechanics and it really opened up my passing in terms of variety. I'm overthrowing down the field and wide left/right along the sidelines. Then there are plays where I choose correctly and toss one high and bring it down in the back of the endzone. It balances out.

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by Armor and Sword

Then we are playing different games. I am easily seeing a difference between elite and average QB's on All-Pro with custom sliders.

I don't want to speak for him but I'm pretty sure what he is referring to is the fact that AI QB's are absolute statues in the pocket. Russell Wilson, Mariota, Taylor, Newton, none of the slew of mobile QB's behave in the pocket any different than a Tom Brady, Roethlisberger, Rivers or Palmer. They all just stand in and are never a threat to run. Same goes for general pocket awareness. They're all equally terrible at avoiding pressure or getting the ball out if there isn't someone open.

[combo87]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

We can all agree that gameplay fixes cut across all modes and make the experience better across the entire game. Beyond that - how many times do we have to have the tired discussion based on a false premise? The MUT team and Franchise team are two fully-staffed groups comprised of entirely different sets of people. One doesn't have general-case priority over the other.

You must have some good insider information then. EA must also do things differently than any other company that has ever existed.

There are other devs here too, along with executives, engineers, etc. In my career, I have NEVER worked somewhere that did not have a budget for each team or that one team did not have priority over another.

I can tell you that right now I am leading working on a multi-million dollar project in which I am working with other teams. Those other teams mean something different to our various VP's and shareholders so my work is currently on hold until we either come up with more funding or the other team finish more of their work.

It is glaringly obvious that EA Sports caters primarily to online gamers. The current state of CFM is nearly unplayable if you're looking for sim play. Bu that's my opinion.

Please don't ban me -- I am simply disagreeing.

[combo87]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

I don't want to speak for him but I'm pretty sure what he is referring to is the fact that AI QB's are absolute statues in the pocket. Russell Wilson, Mariota, Taylor, Newton, none of the slew of mobile QB's behave in the pocket any different than a Tom Brady, Roethlisberger, Rivers or Palmer. They all just stand in and are never a threat to run. Same goes for general pocket awareness. They're all equally terrible at avoiding pressure or getting the ball out if there isn't someone open.

This is 100% spot on.

I would also say that myself as well as a dozen others have tested CFM games with 0 QB accuracy and 100 QB accuracy and the completion percentages were never reflected by changes to the QB slider.

[combo87]

Quote: Originally Posted by Armor and Sword

Then we are playing different games. I am easily seeing a difference between elite and average QB's on All-Pro with custom sliders. In fact....in year one of my Raiders CFM Carr ironically went down for the season in week 16. Had to go with A combo of Conor Cook and then Mclovin....and then I got so desperate I signed Mark Sanchez off the wire and he proceeded to suck *** as I got bounced out of the post season in prompt fashion. Year 2 I had Carr and won the Super Bowl. In year 3 week 13 and going strong. I use all the passing mechanics at my disposal too. Touch, lob, bullet, lead, comeback, over the shoulder etc. I get nice variety, and yes contrary to popular belief here on OS I throw inaccurate passes too. People who follow me on Twitch see all this on the streams. The game is easily the most realistic console football video game to date. Madden 16 was also great so two straight years for my $$$ they have done a solid for us sports gamers yearning for a nice next gen football game. Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

Maybe I'm nuts but I just now looked back through your slider forum post and see that you complained about the QB accuracy slider not working this year and you were waiting on a patch to fix the issue.

[Armor and Sword]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

I don't want to speak for him but I'm pretty sure what he is referring to is the fact that AI QB's are absolute statues in the pocket. Russell Wilson, Mariota, Taylor, Newton, none of the slew of mobile QB's behave in the pocket any different than a Tom Brady, Roethlisberger, Rivers or Palmer. They all just stand in and are never a threat to run. Same goes for general pocket awareness. They're all equally terrible at avoiding pressure or getting the ball out if there isn't someone open.

Ahhh yeah...that needs to be addressed. I totally agree with that.

[Napoleon10]

Jukes seem more effective to anyone else?