Madden NFL 15 Gameplay Video - Seattle Seahawks vs. San Francisco 49ers (Smitty)

[MajorSupreme]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Then Madden 15 should make you happy based on everything I've seen and heard from people who have ACTUALLY played the game.

Oh my god man, have you played it? How can ever know this is true until we see it in repetition.

[hanzsomehanz]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Then Madden 15 should make you happy based on everything I've seen and heard from people who have ACTUALLY played the game.

Let him be man - he clearly pointed out he is not a journeyman.

You are talking about gameplay and he is alluding he is clearly a franchise head more than a sim gameplay head.

When the Franchise news comes out he will get his information.

No need for you to always put yourself and others on the hook.

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[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by MajorSupreme

Oh my god man, have you played it? How can ever know this is true until we see it in repetition.

He's just speaking on what he's seen or heard from his opinion.

[JKSportsGamer1984]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pinnaql3

And why in the hell are players still wearing helmets on the sidelines??

Probably the same reason they don't have NAMES ON THEIR JERSEYS & are all wearing high socks smh. Things like this kill the immersion.

[hanzsomehanz]

Quote: Originally Posted by JaymeeAwesome

This. I care more about the end game rather than the journey. As long as I can lose games and be blown out sometimes and the stats equal what I see on Sunday (and Thursday and Monday), I'll be a happy man.

You know your position on the poll and that is great - you are certainly not alone in that preference.

I believe EA's profit margins would reveal to decline if more folks valued the means over the end-game and the means revealed to be utterly deficient.

Apparently the gameplay is not so bad that the majority cannot cope or staunch opponents would refuse to buy at retail prices or buy at all which if that population were large enough: the protest would show in the marginal decline of sales.

I do not consider myself a gameplay connoisseur but I do have a fervent taste for quality gameplay and have my own framework of what models a state of the art delivery in gameplay.

Development costs vs Unit costs; Price to Appropriation

While I do not mind travelling my city with public transportation: the $2.75 charge for a 90 minute duration is not unreasonable. I would much prefer a better limousine ride however for $59.99.

For $59.99 I could afford a better dinner for my date and I: opposed to take-out from McDonalds we could enjoy dine-in at a fancy steak restaurant such as The Keg.

When VC listed NFL2K5 for $19.99 in contrast to Madden's $49.xx consumers felt they were still getting more from 2K than Madden in core components: presentation, audio, and gameplay.

Even to this day fans allude to the presentation and gameplay pros of that pastime that Madden has yet to yield today.

I use the above analogies to support that I do very much care about how Madden arrives to their outcomes from a gameplay POV in relation to their retail prices. The price of the product and the hardware capacities of today warrant a better state of the art delivery in gameplay.

I do not consider the gameplay unusable but I am not yet satisfied enough to upgrade to the new consoles so I can play the new Madden title on the new consoles.

I am still on the fence on whether I will purchase a copy for 360 as I have yet to see how M15 looks and plays on the past gen consoles.

Spoiler

It would be enlightening to have a gameplay review panel of gurus and experts that could opine on the gameplay of Madden opposed to hearing the continuous criticsms from laymen such ad myself who have no eye or mind for gameplay design.

I just have an eye for beauty and beauty is always beheld by the beholder.

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[hanzsomehanz]

Im furtherance to the above from myself;

The Madden Community

The average Madden gamer is not a gameplay connoisseur - no matter how hard they criticize the game: it is not a life and death matter to their conscience.

There are millions coping with their Irritable Madden Syndrome and for most that involves adjusting sliders or simply letting out some rage which usually involves some type of primal scream (lol) before they return for another game of Madden (rinse and repeat).

If gameplay experts actually harped on the gameplay within the Madden franchise and those crticisms and rebukes went mainstream: only then could I see the public opinion channging radically to the effect that masses of consumers boycott the product until the neccessary refinements that the experts suggest are subsequently applied to the gameplay designs.

I recently read an article that reveald fans were so disappointed and up in arms about the ending to a recent Mass Effect title that EA changed the ending and made it obtainable as a DLC - this only enraged the community more but it did reveal that their complaints were heard.

I do not see the same uprising of rage steaming from the Madden community concerning gameplay.

While I feel I am getting a McDonalds happy meal in the form of Madden gameplay: other views seem to differ strongly as nobody would willingly pay $59.99 for a McD's happy meal.

Overall, the presentation and graphics are improving and proving to be delivered at a higher state of art. In respect to modes: I am a MUThead so I am interested in the developments of that mode.

Ideally, I would love to see everything value $59.99 by now in respect to core components: presentation, audio, gameplay, franchise, MUT.

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[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

He's just speaking on what he's seen or heard from his opinion.

Exactly, a lot of the things people assume about me are just that, assumptions. I'm not here saying I know more than anyone here or that I'm better than anyone else on here. We all want improvement in the game, I just have a different perspective of things and where we're headed, but in the end we all want the same thing, a better game.

[m1ke_nyc]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Exactly, a lot of the things people assume about me are just that, assumptions. I'm not here saying I know more than anyone here or that I'm better than anyone else on here. We all want improvement in the game, I just have a different perspective of things and where we're headed, but in the end we all want the same thing, a better game.

Jp I pray for the day that you can come in here and tell us "I told you so". I'm not as optimistic about Madden as you are but I would love to come in here and say you were right. While you do bring a bit of it on yourself at times I think sometimes we take our frustrations out on you when we see you being so positive about the game and we just dont see it. With that said just know its not personal.