OS Roundtable: If You Could Add One Feature To Madden...

[PMO]

Quote: Originally Posted by kpkpkp

Correct basic math. An 8-8-0 team and an 8-7-1 team should not both have a .500 winning %. The 8-7-1 team should be .531. Madden does not properly factor in ties to winning %. So, my wish is for basic math formula's to be correct.

Funniest thing I read on this thread lol

[ManiacMatt1782]

Quote: Originally Posted by kpkpkp

Correct basic math. An 8-8-0 team and an 8-7-1 team should not both have a .500 winning %. The 8-7-1 team should be .531. Madden does not properly factor in ties to winning %. So, my wish is for basic math formula's to be correct.

Ummmm, a tie is not a win and in this case EA is actually correct. The have WON 50% of their games, A tie does not count as half of a win, it is a Tie, 8-7-1 is a .500 winning percentage. That is basic math.

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by ManiacMatt1782

Ummmm, a tie is not a win and in this case EA is actually correct. The have WON 50% of their games, A tie does not count as half of a win, it is a Tie, 8-7-1 is a .500 winning percentage. That is basic math.

Mmm. But, that's not how it works in the NFL. His math might be wrong but, the 8-7-1 team should finish ahead of the 8-8 team. Maybe that's what he means

[2KGAWDD]

i forget which madden it was but does anyone remember when you had to pass a drill with the player you were scouting. why cant we get something like that where you can actually see the player and how he moves and plays. and that was in like 2005

[kpkpkp]

Quote: Originally Posted by ManiacMatt1782

Ummmm, a tie is not a win and in this case EA is actually correct. The have WON 50% of their games, A tie does not count as half of a win, it is a Tie, 8-7-1 is a .500 winning percentage. That is basic math.

EA is NOT correct. In the NFL ties count as a half win when calculating wins divided by total games played to determine winning %.

http://www.nfl.com/standings

See... This actually happened this year. Green Bay finished 8-7-1 over the 8-8-0 Bears. GB has a .531 winning % and the Bears have .500, as you can see in the official NFL standings I linked.

8.5/16 = 0.53125
And
8/16 = 0.500

Clearly, EA does not include the .5 win when calculating %.

I don't know where you went to school, but you should get your money back.

Quote: Originally Posted by charter04

Mmm. But, that's not how it works in the NFL. His math might be wrong but, the 8-7-1 team should finish ahead of the 8-8 team. Maybe that's what he means

I mean what I said. My math is not wrong.

Charter is right, and as I said.. the 8-7-1 team should finish above the 8-8-0 team. EA should fix this.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by ManiacMatt1782

Ummmm, a tie is not a win and in this case EA is actually correct. The have WON 50% of their games, A tie does not count as half of a win, it is a Tie, 8-7-1 is a .500 winning percentage. That is basic math.

Quote: Originally Posted by charter04

Mmm. But, that's not how it works in the NFL. His math might be wrong but, the 8-7-1 team should finish ahead of the 8-8 team. Maybe that's what he means

No he's right, I never knew either until earlier this year.

[kpkpkp]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

No he's right, I never knew either until earlier this year.

Yeah, I tried tweeting them at the beginning of the year when I saw it was wrong yet again this year. (Was wrong in Madden 13 too)

I tweeted AJ Dombrowski, the main EA Twitter, and the Madden Twitter. But none of them respond to me unless I say something positive.

I also emailed a few EA employee's directly since I happen to have a few emails. I also emailed their regular CS Dept.

I also posted it in their forums bug/glitch thread. I have literally done everything I can possibly think of to communicate this to them. Yet path after patch, year after year, it is still wrong.

Mostly I get no response, or a canned "we'll look into it."

My concern is that they dismiss my complaints because they incorrectly think they're right. Kind of like ManiacMatt a few posts above, who shot back how I am wrong, without apparently looking at real standings or looking into the correct formula. I think EA probably reacts in the same way... "nope, wins mean wins and that's that! A tie counting as .5 of a win? Pish-posh!"

I'm not sure how other sports calculate ties, but in the NFL ties account for .5 of a win. Fact.

That's the problem. I honesty think they think they're right. Or they literally never read their own forums/twitter accounts.

So I maintain my original point... My wish is for Madden to use correct basic math.

(Or for the wind arrow to point in the right direction. But I don't want to get selfish)

[downundermike]

Custom packages and substitutions pre game need to be returned to Madden.