Score This Fight!

[RomeroXVII]

https://youtu.be/-QkUpx4bn4A

This pretty much highlights the problem with grappling scoring.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Hmmm...how the hell is that guy doing the arm trap twice back to back even when the first attempt is denied ?

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[UFCBlackbelt]

Quote: Originally Posted by RomeroXVII

https://youtu.be/-QkUpx4bn4A I present to you: The Nightmares of Grapplers everywhere. This pretty much highlights the problem with grappling scoring.

Round one was tough to score because he landed multiple front kicks which didn't cause a stun but were pretty significant, while you landed the two hooks. Not much happened on the ground but you did wear out his stamina. This one is hard. I'd favor khabib based on the stun + 2 minutes of control and having a better accuracy rate. so rnd 1 khabib

Round 2 was much more even, and I could see on paper the judges giving him the score because he technically scored a stun + a kd and had a higher accuracy rate + more sig strikes. You did dominate in control but I can see why with the current judging they scored it for Dustin.



3 I felt this was a pretty easy round for Khabib. 2 minutes of control plus way more strikes.

IMO at the worst this could have been a split based on 1 & 2, but in no way should have been a uni for Dustin. IMO, it should have been 29-28 Khabib.

The biggest issue I saw in the fight was having a hard time keeping control of him enough to mount an offense because of all the arm traps and just him generally escaping. Though, part of it has to do with how this game is designed.

I think blocked damage should count towards judging. I also think arm traps shouldn't completly kill your stamina, there should be more options based on arm traps for the bottom guy, maybe use it to transition to a better position without a reversal? This would help balance things much more in the judging. Takedowns should be more significant than they currently are, but not too significant on their own.

Usually if I don't see a "Great round" from my corner I assume I might have lost the round

[RomeroXVII]

Quote: Originally Posted by UFCBlackbelt

Round one was tough to score because he landed multiple front kicks which didn't cause a stun but were pretty significant, while you landed the two hooks. Not much happened on the ground but you did wear out his stamina. This one is hard. I'd favor khabib based on the stun + 2 minutes of control and having a better accuracy rate. so rnd 1 khabib Round 2 was much more even, and I could see on paper the judges giving him the score because he technically scored a stun + a kd and had a higher accuracy rate + more sig strikes. You did dominate in control but I can see why with the current judging they scored it for Dustin. 3 I felt this was a pretty easy round for Khabib. 2 minutes of control plus way more strikes. IMO at the worst this could have been a split based on 1 & 2, but in no way should have been a uni for Dustin. IMO, it should have been 29-28 Khabib. The biggest issue I saw in the fight was having a hard time keeping control of him enough to mount an offense because of all the arm traps and just him generally escaping. Though, part of it has to do with how this game is designed. I think blocked damage should count towards judging. I also think arm traps shouldn't completly kill your stamina, there should be more options based on arm traps for the bottom guy, maybe use it to transition to a better position without a reversal? This would help balance things much more in the judging. Takedowns should be more significant than they currently are, but not too significant on their own. Usually if I don't see a "Great round" from my corner I assume I might have lost the round

I pretty much saw it the same way. 1 + 3 for Khabib. 2 can be for Dustin even though he still got outstruck. Dude even agreed that he thought I won that.Screenshot_20181027-131549_PS%20Messages.jpg

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[RomeroXVII]

Quote: Originally Posted by UFCBlackbelt

Round one was tough to score because he landed multiple front kicks which didn't cause a stun but were pretty significant, while you landed the two hooks. Not much happened on the ground but you did wear out his stamina. This one is hard. I'd favor khabib based on the stun + 2 minutes of control and having a better accuracy rate. so rnd 1 khabib Round 2 was much more even, and I could see on paper the judges giving him the score because he technically scored a stun + a kd and had a higher accuracy rate + more sig strikes. You did dominate in control but I can see why with the current judging they scored it for Dustin. 3 I felt this was a pretty easy round for Khabib. 2 minutes of control plus way more strikes. IMO at the worst this could have been a split based on 1 & 2, but in no way should have been a uni for Dustin. IMO, it should have been 29-28 Khabib. The biggest issue I saw in the fight was having a hard time keeping control of him enough to mount an offense because of all the arm traps and just him generally escaping. Though, part of it has to do with how this game is designed. I think blocked damage should count towards judging. I also think arm traps shouldn't completly kill your stamina, there should be more options based on arm traps for the bottom guy, maybe use it to transition to a better position without a reversal? This would help balance things much more in the judging. Takedowns should be more significant than they currently are, but not too significant on their own. Usually if I don't see a "Great round" from my corner I assume I might have lost the round

Also, don't forget the Arm Trap Glitch they can do from bottom to drain your stamina. It's disgusting.

[tomitomitomi]

Quote: Originally Posted by UFCBlackbelt

IMO at the worst this could have been a split based on 1 & 2, but in no way should have been a uni for Dustin. IMO, it should have been 29-28 Khabib.

This is offtopic but I've always found statements like these weird. All split decision means is that the one of the three judges scored the fight for the losing fighter. 50-45, 50-45 and 47-48 is still a split and 29-28x3 is an unanimous decision.

The judges shouldn't score the fight wondering how did the other two judges score it and try to compensate for them.

Anyway, the game doesn't show much love to grapplers when it comes to decisions. If I had to figure why, it's because the judging has a boner for damage and you can't get rocks/knockdowns on ground whereas striking has them in abundance.

[RomeroXVII]

Quote: Originally Posted by tomitomitomi

This is offtopic but I've always found statements like these weird. All split decision means is that the one of the three judges scored the fight for the losing fighter. 50-45, 50-45 and 47-48 is still a split and 29-28x3 is an unanimous decision. The judges shouldn't score the fight wondering how did the other two judges score it and try to compensate for them. Anyway, the game doesn't show much love to grapplers when it comes to decisions. If I had to figure why, it's because the judging has a boner for damage and you can't get rocks/knockdowns on ground whereas striking has them in abundance.

It's insane because the only round I would say he took is the second. Even though I finished strong with a knockdown of my own and another Takedown.

[bejahamps]

To be honest with you, I'd have to give it to Poirier, 29-28.

Obviously, Round 2 goes to Poirier, Round 3 goes to Khabib.

Round 1 is a tough one to score. You had control for a majority of the round and got a rock but he landed some good shots on the feet. What I think it comes down to is that you didn't do anything with your takedowns really in the 1st. Your damage on top was abysmal. If you took the mount, postured up and dropped bombs on him I could give it to you. However, due to the lack of damage I'm gonna give the 1st to him.

Final score: Poirier 29-28