Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

[Haz____]

The stamina in this game is insanely unrealistic. I'm seeing people go completely crazy in round 1, just chasing me down down non stop, throwing a never ending stream of strikes. I've seen countless fights where in the first round alone, people are throwing 170+ strikes, and starting round 2 with near full stamina still. Now i'm sure i'm gonna get a handful of people jumping down my throat for saying that, but it's true, and hear me out.

Now first off, can that type of striking be dealt with? Sure. of course. We have talked about in it many of the other threads. Duck a punch and counter. Slip and Counter. Use lunge back to create distance. Etc. But whether it can be dealt with is not the point. The point is, that it shouldn't even be possible in the first place. You shouldn't be able to throw 180 strikes, and still start round 2 just fine.


http://fightnomics.com/category/blog...striking-pace/

According to this graph, which tracks all fights in the UFC starting from the very beginning.... The average number of strikes per min IN REAL LIFE, is only around 9 strikes. 9 strikes per minute.. In EA UFC 3, it's more like 30-40 strikes per minute. That's an incredibly huge difference.

Now i'm totally OK with you being able to throw 180 strikes in a round. Go for it. But there needs to be consequences to putting that kind of work in. If you throw 180 strikes in round 1, you better be starting round 2 with a big ol' chunk out of your stamina. As it stands now, unless you're actively putting in body work ALSO, then the opponent isn't draining much stamina at all, despite the fact they are throwing an entire fights worth of strikes in 1 round. Again tho, this goes back to my original point; Whether it can be dealt with is not the point. The point is, that it shouldn't even be possible in the first place.







Here's another interesting article which showes how Diaz actually broke the world record for most strikes in a fight when he fought Conor the 2nd time.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/mma/nate-di...mcgregor-92949

Diaz threw 435 strikes in that fight. That is the world record for strikes thrown in a fight.... Now in EA UFC 3, almost every single 5 round fight completely blows that out of the water. Shoot, almost every 3 round fight in EA UFC 3 blows that out of the water..

Conor only threw 322 strikes that fight. In 5 rounds he threw 322 strikes and was completely and totally gassed out. Why can Conor throw that many strikes in just 2 rounds in EA UFC 3, and be just fine? That is an issue. The stamina in this game is an issue.


My suggestion, is that when you throw long enough strings of combinations to drain most, or all of your short term stamina, that needs to have a bigger effect on long term stamina drain. This would reward picking your shots, but put a tax on non stop pressure, while still allowing you to go completely crazy in a round if you really wanted. Which is far more realistic.

[chapmandachamp]

I agree. Too many strikes for very little penalty. What’s also crazy is the accel clock With all the strikes. Imagine a normal clock


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[Haz____]

Quote: Originally Posted by chapmandachamp

I agree. Too many strikes for very little penalty. What’s also crazy is the accel clock With all the strikes. Imagine a normal clock

Wow. I actually didn't even think of that.... That makes it even more insane...

[Dave_S]

I was worried about having to little stamina before the beta, and I'm certainly not concerned about that now.

[WarMMA]

The stamina system is in a much better place than it was last game, but I agree the long term stamina should have more drain than it does for throwing so many strikes like that.

[Serengeti1]

Definitely agree. As you've stated, yeah you can hit the body. Yeah, these guys are beatable. But that doesn't make this okay. It's just silly.

I still think the speed that they come out at is insane too. It's pretty funny how they can just keep it up for what seems like forever. It's like a cartoon.

[Dave_S]

Quote: Originally Posted by Serengeti95

Definitely agree. As you've stated, yeah you can hit the body. Yeah, these guys are beatable. But that doesn't make this okay. It's just silly. I still think the speed that they come out at is insane too. It's pretty funny how they can just keep it up for what seems like forever. It's like a cartoon.

I sometimes have difficulty really seeing what the hands are doing during the hard combos.

[mhayden614]

I tried fighting a normal pace vs the CPU to avoid my stamina depleting fast and it feels like you get penalized double for throwing vs CPU. Even with the accelerated clock and picking my spots, my stamina was depleted at least double compared to the CPU.