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Old 04-26-2016, 10:20 AM   #1
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Submission Chains broken against other players

I had recently some fights in Ultimate Team, where I have a 5* Kimura. If I use it, it gives me the green submission chain transition always in the first stage of it. But on some matches it simply did not appear at all, or was hit by my opponent in no time. I started wondering about this, and found out, that you can do 360s continuously with the left stick without any disadvantage if you are the defender. This would render Transition chains against other players who know this useless.
Anywone here with similiar observation?
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:56 AM   #2
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Re: Submission Chains broken against other players

Never actually thought about this ... Although it doesn't seem like that much of a bug to me ...

by spinning the stick they're essentially giving up the first gate free of charge .
So instead of getting your stage 3 , you're still getting to stage 2 . It's annoying but in fairness clever use of game mechanics
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Old 04-26-2016, 11:22 AM   #3
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Why are you giving up the first gate? you do 360s with the left stick, while filling up gates with the right one.
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Why are you giving up the first gate? you do 360s with the left stick, while filling up gates with the right one.
sorry yeah , complete brain fart there
Yeah definitely not fair but I'm guessing this will be become very common now
So much for my lovely kimura from side control
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Old 04-26-2016, 12:30 PM   #5
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Re: Submission Chains broken against other players

hmmmm

Never knew about this

I won't use this knowledge for evil. Or will I?

In all seriousness, I hope they fix this....

But I also hope that they punish 'sub spam' somehow in the next patch...
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Old 04-26-2016, 12:35 PM   #6
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Re: Submission Chains broken against other players

I knew there was something going on. I use kimura from half guard bottom a lot and noticed sometimes I wasn't getting my gate to switch to armbar.

Anyone know what is happening when I arm trap someone in Mount and they just pop right back up? It's like the second the arm traps animation ends they pop up like a jack in the box. Is there a reversal/deny to the arm trap or something I don't know about? I've only seen this a few times but it seemed that the few who did it knew a trick I don't.
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I knew there was something going on. I use kimura from half guard bottom a lot and noticed sometimes I wasn't getting my gate to switch to armbar.

Anyone know what is happening when I arm trap someone in Mount and they just pop right back up? It's like the second the arm traps animation ends they pop up like a jack in the box. Is there a reversal/deny to the arm trap or something I don't know about? I've only seen this a few times but it seemed that the few who did it knew a trick I don't.
I have noticed the arm trapglitch as well, i think its a glitch.
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Old 04-26-2016, 06:51 PM   #8
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Re: Submission Chains broken against other players

Great find, OP. I'm relaying it to the devs, now. I hope they can fix it. Disallowing left stick inputs after the first one, for the defeder, should do the trick.

As for the armtrap, do you mean when the fighter on top transitions befor you can complete the sweep? If so, it's not a glitch at all. It's an intended mechanic.
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