NHL 13 Community Day Video Webcast Available Now, Post Your Thoughts Here

[AllJuicedUp]

Heres my issue with that video... many times throughout the presentation, its blatantly deceiving

For example, at the 10 minute mark they're comparing top end speed in 12 to 13 and showing how theirs no real explosiveness in NHL 12. But when they do the NHL 12 demonstration, they simply skate forward... Rammer doesn't push in the stick for that extra boost, and he doesn't use the push puck feature, both of which are required to really show the NHL 12 top end speed.

In the video, the NHL 12 skater looks slow as **** because they are using the players regular game speed and calling it his top end speed. Yeah, the player is skating more casually because players don't go all out 100% of the time in a hockey game. That extra gear involves clicking in the left stick and pushing the puck!!!

Now, it appears all you have to do is push forward on the left stick and your player in NHL 13 will put the puck in front of him and skate out like he's got rockets up his ***. Sorry, but thats not an improvement to me... I don't want skaters going 100% all the freaking time, thats not realistic!!!!!

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-- No faceoff kick-outs. They don't want to slow the game down.

Same sorry excuse the Madden team used for lack of major penalties...

I like someone's idea about disabling it for online. But I'd at least like to have it offline, since it's all I play. Realism, FTW!!

[RM938]

Does anyone else think there should be more rebound/crease goals? Yeah you can get the occasional rebound goal but doesnt happen enough IMO.

Also there are alot of goals around the crease in real life. I feel like sometimes goalies cover the puck too easily. They should maybe tone that down just a tad so that the puck isn't a magnet to the glove.

These are just some slight changes i'd love to see, it would change the variety of goals you see game to game and would make crashing the net more realistic.

[ComaFaction]

Quote: Originally Posted by AllJuicedUp

Heres my issue with that video... many times throughout the presentation, its blatantly deceiving For example, at the 10 minute mark they're comparing top end speed in 12 to 13 and showing how theirs no real explosiveness in NHL 12. But when they do the NHL 12 demonstration, they simply skate forward... Rammer doesn't push in the stick for that extra boost, and he doesn't use the push puck feature, both of which are required to really show the NHL 12 top end speed. In the video, the NHL 12 skater looks slow as **** because they are using the players regular game speed and calling it his top end speed. Yeah, the player is skating more casually because players don't go all out 100% of the time in a hockey game. That extra gear involves clicking in the left stick and pushing the puck!!! Now, it appears all you have to do is push forward on the left stick and your player in NHL 13 will put the puck in front of him and skate out like he's got rockets up his ***. Sorry, but thats not an improvement to me... I don't want skaters going 100% all the freaking time, thats not realistic!!!!!

Agreed. Rammer did mention that they haven't decided whether that animation will happen automatically or through pressing L2/LT to trigger that top-end speed in '13. I hope they make it user-controllable.

[JezFranco]

Quote: Originally Posted by ComaFaction

Agreed. Rammer did mention that they haven't decided whether that animation will happen automatically or through pressing L2/LT to trigger that top-end speed in '13. I hope they make it user-controllable.

I'd like it to be similar to the way it is now.
With L2/LT should trigger a push puck, and then it's up to you to chase it.


And with the new "top end speed" If it's still click L3 to go into overdrive, I think it'd be smooth that when you reach, say, second gear (out of 3) your player automatically pushes the puck...

[Yeats]

Quote: Originally Posted by AllJuicedUp

Heres my issue with that video... many times throughout the presentation, its blatantly deceiving Now, it appears all you have to do is push forward on the left stick and your player in NHL 13 will put the puck in front of him and skate out like he's got rockets up his ***. Sorry, but thats not an improvement to me... I don't want skaters going 100% all the freaking time, thats not realistic!!!!!

Bingo! Exactly, and give that man a cookie.

This isn't some new "True Performance Skating" engine, this is "We tweaked the game coding so some guys go REALLY FAST!" That's what it looks like at this point anyway.

[RealmK]

What part of the game is still in an alpha build state do people not get? Seriously.

[bwiggy33]

IMO the LT/L2 button is an absolute crock to NHL 12. It's straight up cheap. When a player wants to get past a D-Man on a straight away down the boards or trying to split the D for a breakaway, they don't all of a sudden just decide "I'm going to start skating fast now" and then when they are past the D Man they stop skating fast. That is what the LT/L2 button is now. Plus it shouldn't be called push puck when you rarely are ever able to take the puck away as a defenseman when this is used. IRL there is a progression in their skating stride. They have a process to finally get to "top end speed." The top players in the league get to it faster than less talented players, which is what separates those players. I'm not accusing you guys above for cheating, but players who use this religiously don't know what the sport of hockey entails. It is just another one of those gimmicks that NHL added to give the people bitching (non realistic players/cheesers) about no speed burst. Just another thing they did to cater those fans. Once again I'm not trying calling you guys above cheaters because I have never played you.

With this new True Performance Skating system they need to leave it to no button but figure out when the right time to get to top end speed is. No way in hell any player is at top end speed when skating around or cycling in the offensive zone. There just isn't enough space in the offensive zone to be doing that. Top end speed occurs when carrying the puck into the offensive zone (Trying to split the defenders for a breakaway, odd man rushes, etc) and when backchecking.

I have extremely strong opinions on this. No user should be able to control it because we will just have another episode of the glitch in the game now with the LT/L2 button, but they absolutely have to get the proper times of top end speed correct otherwise this new system most likely won't work. It's going to take a lot of testing so hopefully they can get it right.