FIFA 15 OS Community Sliders

[orion523]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gnemi

Completely wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Are you saying that I imagined it? It wasn't an opinion, I have no "opinion" on the mod because I've never used it. the videos were on YouTube, Fidel's mod 2.0 was the title. I don't post things just to post them mate, I'm just reporting on what I SAW.

[ricardodc]

Quote: Originally Posted by Matt10

This is pretty much the op sliders...

Yes. Just little changes in Inj Freq (55), GK ability (50), Length (34/33), Width (40/40) and FTE (65/85).

[Matt10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gnemi

Pretty sure regularcat is using Fidel's, as is Bangus (Yeats here). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes, I know Angus uses a modified db in the past as well. Doubt RC will use Fidel's for too long. I haven't tried the patches in a bit, but I will at some point as Fidel had asked me to do a review like last year.

Quote: Originally Posted by ricardodc

Yes. Just little changes in Inj Freq (55), GK ability (50), Length (34/33), Width (40/40) and FTE (65/85).

You mind explaining the reasoning behind the changes?

[Gnemi]

Quote: Originally Posted by orion523

Are you saying that I imagined it? It wasn't an opinion, I have no "opinion" on the mod because I've never used it. the videos were on YouTube, Fidel's mod 2.0 was the title. I don't post things just to post them mate, I'm just reporting on what I SAW.

What I'm saying is that your comments are unreliable at best and even misleading. Saying you watched a few random YT videos of Fidel's earliest attempts at adjusting gameplay via the CL file and were unimpressed would be the precise equivalent of me watching OneDrop playing with Matt's V4 sliders and slagging off the endeavor. Fidel is on 2.8 right now, by the way.

The amount of effort Matt et al put into these sliders is indeed laudable, but don't make the mistake of blowing too much smoke up your arses over them. These sliders put lipstick on a pig, but the number of gameplay elements which may be affected when using a PC vastly outnumber what you can do with EA's sliders. Period.

The lipstick is commendable, but it's still lipstick. Every time I go back to using default EA gameplay, I facepalm my way through the match and immediately go back to using Fidel's mod.

I'll admit: his earlier attempts were pretty underwhelming, but no more than the earlier attempts at sliders here on OS. But Fidel's 2.6 or 2.8 combined with some of the things we as a community here at OS have learned about sliders makes this game borderline amazing. The only thing that I think needs to be given thought is marking, because Fidel's mod makes marking FAR more realistic.

I know I'm swimming upstream here by mentioning a feature that's inaccessible to console users, but it needs to be said. Sliders are a mere tip of the iceberg.

For Matt's sanity alone, I'd rather he NOT mess with the INI files, because the variables are so numerous. It's why I love the synergy of good slider sets (these, mine, and the ones on Orion's thread among them) and a good INI file.

[Matt10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gnemi

What I'm saying is that your comments are unreliable at best and even misleading. Saying you watched a few random YT videos of Fidel's earliest attempts at adjusting gameplay via the CL file and were unimpressed would be the precise equivalent of me watching OneDrop playing with Matt's V4 sliders and slagging off the endeavor. Fidel is on 2.8 right now, by the way. The amount of effort Matt et al put into these sliders is indeed laudable, but don't make the mistake of blowing too much smoke up your arses over them. These sliders put lipstick on a pig, but the number of gameplay elements which may be affected when using a PC vastly outnumber what you can do with EA's sliders. Period. The lipstick is commendable, but it's still lipstick. Every time I go back to using default EA gameplay, I facepalm my way through the match and immediately go back to using Fidel's mod. I'll admit: his earlier attempts were pretty underwhelming, but no more than the earlier attempts at sliders here on OS. But Fidel's 2.6 or 2.8 combined with some of the things we as a community here at OS have learned about sliders makes this game borderline amazing. The only thing that I think needs to be given thought is marking, because Fidel's mod makes marking FAR more realistic. I know I'm swimming upstream here by mentioning a feature that's inaccessible to console users, but it needs to be said. Sliders are a mere tip of the iceberg. For Matt's sanity alone, I'd rather he NOT mess with the INI files, because the variables are so numerous. It's why I love the synergy of good slider sets (these, mine, and the ones on Orion's thread among them) and a good INI file.

Just to play devil's advocate here, Gnemi. I don't think Orion was implying that the gameplay wasn't working - it just didn't look appealing. Of course, all of that starts when the suggestion is to remove text of the word "PC" in the article. The issue at hand is that most people, as we know, that play on the PC have no idea about what a INI file is, or what it can do. For my FIFA 14 sliders, Zarzelius came up with his own that compliment my sliders (not the other way around, where the sliders compliment the INI) and it worked wonders, however I spent a lot of my time in youtube PMs to people on guiding them step by step how to use this one INI file.

So sliders are Universal. Noone is saying they are the be all, end all - but they are the closest thing to where someone does not have to get out of the game to get the full experience. Yes, as soccer snobs (yes we are) we own PC's and want to take it the extra mile, but at the same time we can't disgruntle those who do not have that capability - or simply choose not to. I was the same as most of the PC guys on here, always bragging about how awesome the PC version is and what I can do - but it served no purpose other than a bit of an ego boost that is equivalent to little kid saying "na-na-na look what i can do". So since then, I decided I'm going to help everyone out - and that's the approach.

I think that SHOULD be the approach as a community, in a community sliders thread.

[Gnemi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Matt10

Just to play devil's advocate here, Gnemi. I don't think Orion was implying that the gameplay wasn't working - it just didn't look appealing. Of course, all of that starts when the suggestion is to remove text of the word "PC" in the article. The issue at hand is that most people, as we know, that play on the PC have no idea about what a INI file is, or what it can do. For my FIFA 14 sliders, Zarzelius came up with his own that compliment my sliders (not the other way around, where the sliders compliment the INI) and it worked wonders, however I spent a lot of my time in youtube PMs to people on guiding them step by step how to use this one INI file. So sliders are Universal. Noone is saying they are the be all, end all - but they are the closest thing to where someone does not have to get out of the game to get the full experience. Yes, as soccer snobs (yes we are) we own PC's and want to take it the extra mile, but at the same time we can't disgruntle those who do not have that capability - or simply choose not to. I was the same as most of the PC guys on here, always bragging about how awesome the PC version is and what I can do - but it served no purpose other than a bit of an ego boost that is equivalent to little kid saying "na-na-na look what i can do". So since then, I decided I'm going to help everyone out - and that's the approach. I think that SHOULD be the approach as a community, in a community sliders thread.

I didn't agree with Nuno's comment. I thought it was more or less implicit on Orion's blog that he was talking about console users and non-modded PC users. Nonetheless, I have a ton of experience with the INI files and wanted to contest an anecdotal and semi-irrelevant observation based on some punter's YouTube videos.

I'm not a disciple of heavy modding on the PC by any stretch. I just know from heavy experimentation the changes that it makes to the gameplay, almost all of it for the better. There are probably one or two things I prefer about vanilla, but not nearly enough to play vanilla. I love you guys but I still watch your videos and cringe at the things that simply *cannot be changed* with sliders alone.

Overall, I think the INI modding community are showing one obvious fact to EA: give us more options in the sliders.

If I could change the CPU tackling characteristics and the ADD of my teammates, I'd be the happiest guy on the planet. Until they give that to us, however, I'll be grateful to Fidel et al in the same way I'm grateful to Matt10 over here.

By the way, it takes 12 total seconds to use the INI file. Go to your FIFA 15 directory. Copy / paste the cl.ini file from Fidel's site. Load the game. Enjoy your life. No regeneration, no database shenanigans, just a single file.

[Gnemi]

By the way, I think many of us (including me) are still struggling to generate chances and properly finish in this game. Not even Fidel's mod helps with that. The CPU outshoots me around 2:1 or 3:1 most matches, even against crappy inferior squads. However, anything I do to change that significantly ends up trivializing the gameplay and making it too easy. This occurs both with and without the mod, on WC or Legendary.

Super mixed bag this year, simple as that.

[NightRaven3]

I dont want to be that guy but I'm going to be anyway, I thought this thread was about sliders and what matt has done. I dont understand why people come in here trying to debunk these sliders and post their own stuff. If you dont like them then move on, there are plenty of people in here that love these sliders for what they are. If you want to talk about your sliders and pc modded crap then make your own thread.