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[bad_philanthropy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Matt10

So I'm taking a PES hiatus (recent patch is a joke) - and trying FIFA. After a couple days, this game is ridiculously...unrealistically...fast. It's not just the pace of play, it's the animation speed. Players movements are in hyper speed. Everyone's agility seems crazy. Yes, this is also using lower tier clubs - the animations just don't add up. Not sure where EA is going with 13 - but count me out for now - 12 was a lot better (especially on PC) so I can't think of 13 being more polished?

Agreed on this assessment. The overall gameplay is a step backward. The general speed and animations during play are much too fast, and I feel like every game feels very similar—and this makes the scripting seem especially bad. Last year I felt like I would get a good variety of experiences from one game to the next, and it stayed pretty fresh over the course of the year. There are a lot of successes, but the core game is definitely a disappointment.

It's really too bad because I love the polish of CM, the Youth Academy and progression improvements, and the integration of international competition. Even first touch is a pretty good addition.

It almost feels more like '11, where offensive play was predicated on moving the ball forward as fast as possible. The insane defensive pressure that caused this in '11 isn't exactly the same though. It's like FIFA '13 is a cross between '11 and '12, whereas I felt '12 was quite a departure from the gameplay of '11 in a good way.

[Matt10]

Quote: Originally Posted by bad_philanthropy

Agreed on this assessment. The overall gameplay is a step backward. The general speed and animations during play are much too fast, and I feel like every game feels very similar—and this makes the scripting seem especially bad. Last year I felt like I would get a good variety of experiences from one game to the next, and it stayed pretty fresh over the course of the year. There are a lot of successes, but the core game is definitely a disappointment. It's really too bad because I love the polish of CM, the Youth Academy and progression improvements, and the integration of international competition. Even first touch is a pretty good addition. It almost feels more like '11, where offensive play was predicated on moving the ball forward as fast as possible. The insane defensive pressure that caused this in '11 isn't exactly the same though. It's like FIFA '13 is a cross between '11 and '12, whereas I felt '12 was quite a departure from the gameplay of '11 in a good way.

Agree 100% ; it's really baffling to be honest. FIFA 12 was a pretty good game - but it also had the occasional issue of the "ninja dribble". It doesn't add up because I wonder if EA truly watch matches at all sometimes. The constant dribbling back and forth, then passing, then dribble back and forth - this would drive a coach crazy.

I really gave FIFA a chance, but I'm back to PES with my global edits; it just seems a bit more polished in terms of gameplay. There is something about FIFA's physics of the players and models that I absolutely love though - so it makes it really hard not to want to pick the game up and get to it. The problem is sliders can't even fix the ninja dribble, even pressure on the ball is misguided because it doesn't pressure the ball carrier - it puts an emphasis on marking the area AROUND the ball carrier....

[dubcity]

Honestly, I've gotten used to the speed and gameplay. It really isn't that bad if you find a strategy that works for you. Right now I'm playing on World Class difficulty with slow speed and default sliders, and I'm having some great matches. The right defending can actually force them to buildup instead of constantly counter-attacking.

Somewhat related: does anyone actually play on Legendary difficulty with default sliders? I'd be down if it were possible to manage the CPU's ridiculous through ball and shot ability.

[bwiggy33]

Just got the game the other day and I have to say after 5 games I'm not really enjoying my time. How in the heck can every single player in the game handle the ball so well without losing it from time to time? Like literally players just go backwards, forwards, and side to side and will never lose the ball. Not to mention they do this at ridiculous speeds so you have to block the shot because winning the ball through a standing or sliding tackle is non existent. Players just dribble around tackles like it's nothing. It is absolutely game killing. It just makes the game look and feel atrocious. In order to try and help this I'm going to lower sprint and acceleration speed a crap load. In all honesty this game looks and feels nothing like soccer at the moment.

The other thing is pass speed. Boy oh boy does that need to go down. Crosses are just rocketed. Plus the CPU just makes passes back and forth at fast rates. Like one guy will receive the ball and get rid of it immediately whether he has space or not.

The first game I was enjoying it but then I just realized how there is just no momentum or anything. Players just run around freely and can do anything they want without having to plant and restart running. Just not my cup of tea so far.

I've tried a couple different slider sets but none are what I'm looking for because all facets of the game are done in warp speed. It just has zero pace of what a real soccer game would have. I think I'm averaging about 3 whistles a game to. Just baffles me how comparable this and NHL are. Both games lack stoppages of play and each game basically feels the same.

[dubcity]

Just had to turn this crap off after getting a red card for a Theo Walcott slide tackle. Sure would be nice if the CPU would slide in with a sloppy slide tackle once in a while. The only time they get fouls called on them is when they do that stupid push-pull thing. I think that's FIFA's way of "fixing" the non-calls and impact engine stupidity. Giving the CPU yellow cards for push-pull defending, regardless of whether I fall to the ground or not. Course, if they do that in the penalty box it's totally fine. They could punch me in the face and slit my throat and the ref would tell us to play on.

[DJ]

Quote: Originally Posted by bwiggy33

Just got the game the other day and I have to say after 5 games I'm not really enjoying my time. How in the heck can every single player in the game handle the ball so well without losing it from time to time? Like literally players just go backwards, forwards, and side to side and will never lose the ball. Not to mention they do this at ridiculous speeds so you have to block the shot because winning the ball through a standing or sliding tackle is non existent. Players just dribble around tackles like it's nothing. It is absolutely game killing. It just makes the game look and feel atrocious. In order to try and help this I'm going to lower sprint and acceleration speed a crap load. In all honesty this game looks and feels nothing like soccer at the moment. The other thing is pass speed. Boy oh boy does that need to go down. Crosses are just rocketed. Plus the CPU just makes passes back and forth at fast rates. Like one guy will receive the ball and get rid of it immediately whether he has space or not. The first game I was enjoying it but then I just realized how there is just no momentum or anything. Players just run around freely and can do anything they want without having to plant and restart running. Just not my cup of tea so far. I've tried a couple different slider sets but none are what I'm looking for because all facets of the game are done in warp speed. It just has zero pace of what a real soccer game would have. I think I'm averaging about 3 whistles a game to. Just baffles me how comparable this and NHL are. Both games lack stoppages of play and each game basically feels the same.

That's not encouraging for a guy like me that only plays offline.

[bwiggy33]

Quote: Originally Posted by DJ

That's not encouraging for a guy like me that only plays offline.

I only play offline as well. DJ my thoughts have changed quite a bit since Orion made a new slider set. He made the pace of the game much more like PES and in fact there's a lot more passing and moving the ball around in FIFA from what I've seen so far. Still really like PES but just got a little bored because some little things FIFA has, PES doesn't. As of now I'm really digging Orion's slider set through the first 4 games I've played. I'm going to play more after I watch the Chelsea game this afternoon. Overall though it feels a lot more like soccer, where before it was a horrific experience. I seriously mean horrific to. So ultimately if I were you and are even thinking of getting the game, I'd say rent or somehow try it first with Orion's sliders and chose if you like it enough to buy it. Wouldn't want you to waste money on it if you didn't like it. I really just decided to buy it because I had some Amazon promotion money and the price was lowered to $39.99.

[DJ]

Quote: Originally Posted by bwiggy33

I only play offline as well. DJ my thoughts have changed quite a bit since Orion made a new slider set. He made the pace of the game much more like PES and in fact there's a lot more passing and moving the ball around in FIFA from what I've seen so far. Still really like PES but just got a little bored because some little things FIFA has, PES doesn't. As of now I'm really digging Orion's slider set through the first 4 games I've played. I'm going to play more after I watch the Chelsea game this afternoon. Overall though it feels a lot more like soccer, where before it was a horrific experience. I seriously mean horrific to. So ultimately if I were you and are even thinking of getting the game, I'd say rent or somehow try it first with Orion's sliders and chose if you like it enough to buy it. Wouldn't want you to waste money on it if you didn't like it. I really just decided to buy it because I had some Amazon promotion money and the price was lowered to $39.99.

Thanks for the update. I play FIFA a lot on the Vita, but that's running on 11's engine, I believe. I had 12 for the 360 for quite a while and really enjoyed it, but traded it in towards NBA 2K13. I've been trying to decide whether to get 13 or go back to 12. I hear some good things about PES but the fact is I'm a very casual fan of soccer and FIFA, just appeals to me more.

I'll wait until some BF deals come up to see if I can find the game for around $30-40.