NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[canes21]

Quote: Originally Posted by SteboSSK

So if you agree tell where they have made real improvements? Outside of reducing suction tackling and minor graphical improvements nothing has changed. I still have my ncaa 09 copy, never played 10 and only played someone else 11. The could have fixed these issues in 10. The game is still suffering from things that hurt those installments. OLINE pancaking dline in unison, player running motions are stiff as wood, easy sacks, they take out things like edit player in dynasty for who knows what. This game could have easily been ncaa 10. The Ps2 was the best era. Ncaa 04 did not feel like ncaa 07 so 12 shouldn't feel like 09 either.

And it doesn't. NCAA 12 feels nothing like 09 at all. I really don't know how you can say it even resembles the same feel. Play the 09 demo and then play 12's demo. Presentation is different, graphics are a lot better, and most importantly, the gameplay is a lot better. Compared to 09 the players in 12 actually look and feel like they have momentum when running. As much as we want, that's debateable, but they definitely have a noticeable amount compared to 09 or even 10.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

And it doesn't. NCAA 12 feels nothing like 09 at all. I really don't know how you can say it even resembles the same feel. Play the 09 demo and then play 12's demo. Presentation is different, graphics are a lot better, and most importantly, the gameplay is a lot better. Compared to 09 the players in 12 actually look and feel like they have momentum when running. As much as we want, that's debateable, but they definitely have a noticeable amount compared to 09 or even 10.

Are you really arguing with somebody who says 12 and 09 are the same? 10 and 11 are worlds apart when it comes to control and locomotion.

[TDenverFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by SteboSSK

So if you agree tell where they have made real improvements? Outside of reducing suction tackling and minor graphical improvements nothing has changed. I still have my ncaa 09 copy, never played 10 and only played someone else 11. The could have fixed these issues in 10. The game is still suffering from things that hurt those installments. OLINE pancaking dline in unison, player running motions are stiff as wood, easy sacks, they take out things like edit player in dynasty for who knows what. This game could have easily been ncaa 10. The Ps2 was the best era. Ncaa 04 did not feel like ncaa 07 so 12 shouldn't feel like 09 either.

QB Scrambling
Catch Button
New Formations (1-5-5, for example)
Better Zone Coverage
No Suctioning
Improved Blocking
Better Running
Stronger Defense

And So On.

That's before we talk about Graphics and Presentation...


Also, Over the Past 4 Years, the NCAA Rules have changed very little. There is about no way EA can make a completely redone football game because a Football Game in 2009 has the same rules as 2012.

[Don Figures]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

And it doesn't. NCAA 12 feels nothing like 09 at all. I really don't know how you can say it even resembles the same feel. Play the 09 demo and then play 12's demo. Presentation is different, graphics are a lot better, and most importantly, the gameplay is a lot better. Compared to 09 the players in 12 actually look and feel like they have momentum when running. As much as we want, that's debateable, but they definitely have a noticeable amount compared to 09 or even 10.

Bottom line Gents and the underlined story is the demo basically plays the same as the previous year and also still has some of the same issues as past years games. Yea, Yea, they corrected the suction stuff, and a few other tweaks, but it is the same. What do you expect. History repeats itself.

Like the gents original review, I am going to buy the game. Love football and it is the only game in town (EA is smiling and their hand is itching). As normal and for years we will have to deal with what they give us. Until a competitor is able to come in, we won't have the knock out blow like NBA 2K did to Live (or whatever the name was changed to in order to attempt to increase sales).

[ttech10]

I enjoy it overall, though there are some things that have annoyed me.

A few times I've had the QB scramble and my guys in zone or spying will just stand there even though the QB is past the LOS. They just watch him, at least once they waited for the QB to be behind them before they pursued.

Does the demo not call intentional grounding?

The CPU, multiple times, has called for a fair catch on a punt return and then ran with it, gaining extra yards of course because I'm not expecting them to take off.

The CPU still uses all TO's if you're kicking a game winner. After I made the game winner one of their defensive guys tackled my kicker, nothing was done about it. In 11 if I even touched their kicker it was 15 yards.

Same annoying announcing. One of the guys belittled my QB for "throwing into coverage" saying he can't just blindly throw a ball. The guy was essentially wide open and shortly after catching it he got hit and dropped the ball.


I do like the new tackling system though, you can actually hit someone if they already got touched by another one of your players.

Also catching seems nicer.

The replay feature at the end of the game is nice, though I wish they had full replay available in game to see if they fixed the issue with the PS3 version.


I'm more interested in playing with the Dynasty Mode, now that coaching will be a major point. It got annoying in past games where the coaches would stay at the same place for 50 years and nothing changed, every five years I would randomly switch around coaches... didn't change things much but it was something. Can't wait to work my way up from a low level DC job to head coach at a major program.

Now, on my quest to play as every team I must use the Longhorns (ugh). Is their 3rd string still upper 90s in THP/THA? EDIT: Nevermind, we can't set starters? Not to mention all 3 kickoff returns my player back there decided to try and catch it with their head. Why is that team even on the game? Should have had TCU v Boise State or something. I've also noticed through all the games trying to pass more left/right by using the stick does absolutely nothing. Did they remove that, or is it another gimp of the demo?

[Jarodd21]

Quote: Originally Posted by bruinkid626

I'm liking the fact that the CPU is choosing to kick when they win the coin toss now. They hardly ever did that last year.

Yea that was cool to see.. I hope they randomly do that on Madden too..

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Don Figures

Bottom line Gents and the underlined story is the demo basically plays the same as the previous year and also still has some of the same issues as past years games. Yea, Yea, they corrected the suction stuff, and a few other tweaks, but it is the same. What do you expect. History repeats itself. Like the gents original review, I am going to buy the game. Love football and it is the only game in town (EA is smiling and their hand is itching). As normal and for years we will have to deal with what they give us. Until a competitor is able to come in, we won't have the knock out blow like NBA 2K did to Live (or whatever the name was changed to in order to attempt to increase sales).

Custom Playbooks and Coaching Carasual are not "just tweaks." Overall, including game play, presentation, franchise and RTG looks like enough improvements from 11 to qualify as much better than tweaks, and that is the bottom line. I disagree with your opinion, but to each their own.

[ryan36]

impressions only. the back and forth discussion the q&a,etc... needs to stop.