NCAA Football 12 Video - New Zone Coverage

[dan_457]

Quote: Originally Posted by DerkontheOS

Does this mean North Texas will be able to shut down the Oklahoma passing game?

Nah, it just means Zone coverage plays aren't pure garbage anymore, So long as they didn't over do it and make the players friggin physic again. Just because they say the AI will now do this and that, doesn't mean that they'll perfectly execute it every down, as they shouldn't.

[PaperBoyx703]

Quote: Originally Posted by DerkontheOS

Does this mean North Texas will be able to shut down the Oklahoma passing game?

I think this addition to the game is not indicating all teams will be dominating and only running zone because everyone knows zones can be picked apart very easily the throws in the game were just plain bad and stupid i.e Jacory Harris(just like in real life j/k ) just to show how they AI in the game plays receiver's routes instead if their play art.

So I mean if the game has some aspect of the game where more upset are likely to happen against the user then I would say yes its possible they could put up a fight against the sooners given its a bad day for the sooners.

[Roggie]

Watching it a few more times, I'm starting to feel that they may have made zone coverage a little too strong. Won't know for sure until the game comes out, or from the demo, but a lot of routes that should work on a zone seem useless. If the HB in the flat route is gone, does that mean that zones will destroy a HB screen pass?

[seasprite]

looks promising

[mvb34]

Quote: Originally Posted by blkrptnt819

Ok here's my question. If they take away the skinny post and the flats, besides running how can u beat the Cover 2 sink? U can run a drag but that's minimal yardage. It's going to get weird.

Playaction action could help, the underneath should be there... If this is done right you will need to know where to throw the ball..

[Dr Death]

Quote: Originally Posted by Roggie

Watching it a few more times, I'm starting to feel that they may have made zone coverage a little too strong. Won't know for sure until the game comes out, or from the demo, but a lot of routes that should work on a zone seem useless. If the HB in the flat route is gone, does that mean that zones will destroy a HB screen pass?

As someone who uses 5- Wide as my primary offense, I run a lot of those quick little out routes... and they will still be there, you'll just have to use them against Man.

Another thing I think people need to realize and is one thing that I think EA has done an excellent job w/ is the Lead Passing. Keep in mind, I am not talking trajectory or loft, but lead passing has been a big key to passing successfully.

Say you have a guy that runs a 10 yard hook route against this new zone defense... instead of just throwing the ball to the guy where the defender can jump in front for a pick or knock it away, you can throw left... if the defender is on his right, right if the defender is on the left, and when he's squared up right behind him, you throw it low... forcing your WR to go down and scoop the ball.

The lead passing feature is something that I rarely see mentioned, but it is a huge benefit to the passing game. Now, if they can get trajectory and loft correct... watch out!

[hurricanefootball4]

It will be interesting to see how the DB's and WR's interact while they are in zone coverage, it certainly looks much improved from last year though.

These videos are to demonstrate that zone defense can actually be effective, I just hope that as an offense we are able to realistically counter act the zone D.

The clips they show are all with plays where the route is in front of the zone, where they are basically strafing with some minor backpedaling.

The interaction that I'm interested to see is when a guy is on a go route and the QB is throwing over the zone and the zone defender has to backpedal, turn (or hip swivel as Mel Kiper Jr. would say), and get into a full sprint.

Or that there is the threat of a WR running past the zone and then he's able to do a comeback route after getting the DB to turn

Definitely looking forward to see how it all plays out!

[Roggie]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Death

As someone who uses 5- Wide as my primary offense, I run a lot of those quick little out routes... and they will still be there, you'll just have to use them against Man. Another thing I think people need to realize and is one thing that I think EA has done an excellent job w/ is the Lead Passing. Keep in mind, I am not talking trajectory or loft, but lead passing has been a big key to passing successfully. Say you have a guy that runs a 10 yard hook route against this new zone defense... instead of just throwing the ball to the guy where the defender can jump in front for a pick or knock it away, you can throw left... if the defender is on his right, right if the defender is on the left, and when he's squared up right behind him, you throw it low... forcing your WR to go down and scoop the ball. The lead passing feature is something that I rarely see mentioned, but it is a huge benefit to the passing game. Now, if they can get trajectory and loft correct... watch out!

I run what is basically the pro-style of your offense. I run a bunch of quick routes, but out of the I form and only 2 or 3 wideouts. Lead Passing is one of my favorite things to use, until I get a less accurate QB (which I'm stuck with for this season. 5 star recruit I got was a scrambler (one or 2 5 stars to ever have interest with me), and his accuracy isn't very good. Tried to use lead passing with him, and it's a crapshoot. Not complaining; that's how it should be. But with the new zones, there must be a way to throw a touch pass instead of just a lob or a bullet.