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Cowboy_Bear · 11-03-2010, 04:15 PM

Hello Gentlemen:
I am playing in an OD with all my old high school buddies (alot whom I played football with). We each created a team and traded that team for the worse teams in the ACC, Big 12, and SEC. We just wrapped up our conference championship games in the second season and I lost last night on a 10 second left hail marry. I literally, was sick to my stomache!

Most of the guys run a a combination spread/pro style offense but the guy I went up against last night ran the run-and-shoot. I also know a couple of guys whom I haven't played yet, but they run the run-and-shoot and air-raid offenses quite often as well.

Last night was my first loss. Like I said, he ran the run-and-shoot and I kept my typlical 4-3 defense. It didn't matter if I blitzed or ran man coverage or zone coverage. His QB would take a quick 3 step drop, has a killer release, and consequently... I could never get pressure on him and he would find the open man everytime.

I'm already not the best at defense so this is what I was thinking...

Selecting the 4-2-5 defense and substituting one DE with a FS/SS (whom I would control the entire game... take him off the LOS and probably set him up behind the MLB and in front of my FS and SS). Now substitue the remaining DE with another DT (my goal would be to recruit huge/fat/strong DT's) thus giving me 3 big DT's on the front line. Now I am planning on shifting the line to compensate for moving my previous DE, now FS/SS, as well as shifting my backers if necessary (line and backer shift would also take into consideration the strong side of the field).

My thinking is if I can "clog up the line" with my big DT's, the speed of my FS/SS and the remaining two backers can mediate the run... I know doing this will make the run more difficult, but no one in our league runs the ball consistently either. I have the most difficult time with the pass.

Moreover, I was thinking about substituting both of my backers with the strongest SS's I have or can recruit. Thus, giving up strength and block shedding but gaining "coverage" while at the same time having 5 defensive backs.

In summary, I guess what I am trying to do is contain the run with 3 big d-lineman while having SPEED and COVERAGE guys take up the remaining 8 positions. I think that because most of the guys run spread offenses, I cannot stop the run-but I can contain it with my speed - also giving me 8 coverage guys which is by far my weakest link in the game.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance.

crowhop · 11-03-2010, 05:33 PM

If they are running four and five WR sets, you need to be in Nickel or Dime to have the DBs on the field to cover them. Otherwise you have LBs trying to cover WRs...that is a bad deal in this game.

Using the 4-3, you have Nickel Normal and Nickel Strong...both are good. You have your base four DL, two LBs and 5 DBs...essentially the 4-2-5 that you are going for.

In Nickel, run "Over Storm Brave" to stop the run and get pressure. This puts all your DBs in man coverage though. "Crash In" your DL when you think they are running because the middle can open up for them if they run it up the gut.

Most of the time, your DBs will have a weakness in Man Coverage or Zone. If they are better in Man, play more man. And vice versa for Zone.

Yeti_2009 · 11-03-2010, 05:43 PM

yeah I am not particularly fond of the 4-2-5 because of only one deep safety. With any pass heavy team, if I have a dominant DT, I like to run 3-4 D and sub the OLB as DB's that have decent tackling ability.

Its a very tough D to pass against.

aotke1110 · 11-03-2010, 05:49 PM

Just run a 3-3-5 and either recruit all speed at LB or as you say put SS at the LB spots.

Cowboy_Bear · 11-03-2010, 06:55 PM

I'm sorry. I should have clarified. I picked my usual 4-3 defense but I stayed in nickle and dime 95% of the time.

Lord Marshall X · 11-03-2010, 07:29 PM

Go Nickel 3-3-5 and run 4th CB package. run cover 1. You can then blitz your linebackers or keep them in hook zones.

I'f he likes to go to the slot go ROLB blitz in regular nickel with the strong slot package.

To be honest though only talent beats these schemes and solid man to man defense which means you have to recruit better corners because its really really easy in this game for someone to be wide open every play.

shane79013 · 11-03-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aotke1110


	Just run a 3-3-5 and either recruit all speed at LB or as you say put SS at the LB spots.

I agree with this.

11-03-2010, 04:15 PM	#1
Cowboy_Bear Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Texas	Help! What do you think of this defensive strategy? Hello Gentlemen: I am playing in an OD with all my old high school buddies (alot whom I played football with). We each created a team and traded that team for the worse teams in the ACC, Big 12, and SEC. We just wrapped up our conference championship games in the second season and I lost last night on a 10 second left hail marry. I literally, was sick to my stomache! Most of the guys run a a combination spread/pro style offense but the guy I went up against last night ran the run-and-shoot. I also know a couple of guys whom I haven't played yet, but they run the run-and-shoot and air-raid offenses quite often as well. Last night was my first loss. Like I said, he ran the run-and-shoot and I kept my typlical 4-3 defense. It didn't matter if I blitzed or ran man coverage or zone coverage. His QB would take a quick 3 step drop, has a killer release, and consequently... I could never get pressure on him and he would find the open man everytime. I'm already not the best at defense so this is what I was thinking... Selecting the 4-2-5 defense and substituting one DE with a FS/SS (whom I would control the entire game... take him off the LOS and probably set him up behind the MLB and in front of my FS and SS). Now substitue the remaining DE with another DT (my goal would be to recruit huge/fat/strong DT's) thus giving me 3 big DT's on the front line. Now I am planning on shifting the line to compensate for moving my previous DE, now FS/SS, as well as shifting my backers if necessary (line and backer shift would also take into consideration the strong side of the field). My thinking is if I can "clog up the line" with my big DT's, the speed of my FS/SS and the remaining two backers can mediate the run... I know doing this will make the run more difficult, but no one in our league runs the ball consistently either. I have the most difficult time with the pass. Moreover, I was thinking about substituting both of my backers with the strongest SS's I have or can recruit. Thus, giving up strength and block shedding but gaining "coverage" while at the same time having 5 defensive backs. In summary, I guess what I am trying to do is contain the run with 3 big d-lineman while having SPEED and COVERAGE guys take up the remaining 8 positions. I think that because most of the guys run spread offenses, I cannot stop the run-but I can contain it with my speed - also giving me 8 coverage guys which is by far my weakest link in the game. Thoughts? Thanks in advance.

11-03-2010, 05:33 PM	#2
crowhop Pro OVR: 4 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Flintstone	Re: Help! What do you think of this defensive strategy? If they are running four and five WR sets, you need to be in Nickel or Dime to have the DBs on the field to cover them. Otherwise you have LBs trying to cover WRs...that is a bad deal in this game. Using the 4-3, you have Nickel Normal and Nickel Strong...both are good. You have your base four DL, two LBs and 5 DBs...essentially the 4-2-5 that you are going for. In Nickel, run "Over Storm Brave" to stop the run and get pressure. This puts all your DBs in man coverage though. "Crash In" your DL when you think they are running because the middle can open up for them if they run it up the gut. Most of the time, your DBs will have a weakness in Man Coverage or Zone. If they are better in Man, play more man. And vice versa for Zone.

11-03-2010, 05:43 PM	#3
Yeti_2009 Rookie OVR: 3 Join Date: May 2010	Re: Help! What do you think of this defensive strategy? yeah I am not particularly fond of the 4-2-5 because of only one deep safety. With any pass heavy team, if I have a dominant DT, I like to run 3-4 D and sub the OLB as DB's that have decent tackling ability. Its a very tough D to pass against.

11-03-2010, 05:49 PM	#4
aotke1110 Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Aug 2010	Re: Help! What do you think of this defensive strategy? Just run a 3-3-5 and either recruit all speed at LB or as you say put SS at the LB spots.

11-03-2010, 06:55 PM	#5
Cowboy_Bear Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Texas	Re: Help! What do you think of this defensive strategy? I'm sorry. I should have clarified. I picked my usual 4-3 defense but I stayed in nickle and dime 95% of the time.

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11-03-2010, 07:29 PM	#6
Lord Marshall X Banned OVR: 3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Help! What do you think of this defensive strategy? Go Nickel 3-3-5 and run 4th CB package. run cover 1. You can then blitz your linebackers or keep them in hook zones. I'f he likes to go to the slot go ROLB blitz in regular nickel with the strong slot package. To be honest though only talent beats these schemes and solid man to man defense which means you have to recruit better corners because its really really easy in this game for someone to be wide open every play.

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