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RaychelSnr · 08-06-2010, 02:40 PM

Assistant coaches are the lifeblood of a program. They put in long hours, travel thousands of miles, initiate contact with recruits and evaluate and decide which players to go after. The addition of these coaches in the Dynasty mode of EA Sports' NCAA Football 11 could add so much more to the complexity of recruiting and evaluating players.

The head coach, in most cases, does not initiate phone calls and schedule visits with recruits. The head coach is more focused on the actual games at hand during the season, as evidenced by Bruce Feldman's fantastic book, Meat Market, which follows Ed Orgeron (an assistant head coach at Ole Miss at the time) and his staff during a complete recruiting cycle, from evaluations to signings. This book paints a clear picture of what college football recruiting is actually like, and EA Sports' version of recruiting is nothing like the real thing.

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pdiehm · 08-06-2010, 02:44 PM

would love it. But by doing this you are also opening up the door for a coaching progression...starting out as an assistant, moving to a coordinator, then moving to a head coach.

I think Madden does this, where you can hire coaches based on their expertise.

cactusruss · 08-06-2010, 02:47 PM

This is why I just let the CPU do all of my recruiting.

pdiehm · 08-06-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cactusruss


	This is why I just let the CPU do all of my recruiting.

You do? how do you do it? Do you set the board up and that's that? How have your classes been? Has the CPU been able to close on a lot of the targets you set up?

canes21 · 08-06-2010, 03:08 PM

I'm going to be honest, I didn't read it. But I definitely think we need the ability to have a school budget for stadium renovations, new uniforms, coaches, etc.

We should be able to hire coordinators, recruiters, trainers, etc. If I go cheap on my training staff, but have a good set of coordinators, it should show. Maybe my team on the field will play up to their potential, but when a player gets hurt, he gets back to normal a lot slower. The thing could be vice versa with bad coaches, but a good training staff.

Also, we need to be able to hire recruiters. They're a big part of football and need to be in the game. If I am Miami, but hire terrible recruiters, I should not get a very good class, or one that is expected of me. But if I get top of the line recruiters at SMU, maybe I pull in a good recruiting class with some players that would have been afterthoughts with an average recruiter.

Those additions also call for a coaching carousel like CH2k8.

My thoughts on coaches in NCAA.

rollinphat · 08-06-2010, 03:13 PM

Ed Orgeron was head coach at Ole Miss from 2005-2007.
He was never an assistant coach there.

TimLawNYC · 08-06-2010, 04:04 PM

If EA did this, they'd make you pay extra to buy it; otherwise, they wouldn't make any extra money from their dumb "Recruiting Assist" microtransactions.

But I agree that it would be a nice addition of depth for Dynasty mode.

tbach · 08-06-2010, 04:33 PM

I didn't like the discipline aspect from the older games so I wouldn't really want it back with the budget thing. The budget idea isn't bad but I don't want discipline and I don't see why academics should be there. I'm not the dean.

08-06-2010, 02:40 PM	#1
RaychelSnr Executive Editor OVR: 57 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 4,846 Blog Entries: 490	Dynasty Musings: NCAA 11 -- Assistance Needed Assistant coaches are the lifeblood of a program. They put in long hours, travel thousands of miles, initiate contact with recruits and evaluate and decide which players to go after. The addition of these coaches in the Dynasty mode of EA Sports' NCAA Football 11 could add so much more to the complexity of recruiting and evaluating players. The head coach, in most cases, does not initiate phone calls and schedule visits with recruits. The head coach is more focused on the actual games at hand during the season, as evidenced by Bruce Feldman's fantastic book, Meat Market, which follows Ed Orgeron (an assistant head coach at Ole Miss at the time) and his staff during a complete recruiting cycle, from evaluations to signings. This book paints a clear picture of what college football recruiting is actually like, and EA Sports' version of recruiting is nothing like the real thing. Read More - Dynasty Musings: NCAA 11 -- Assistance Needed Platform: Xbox 360 / PS2 / PS3 / iPhone

08-06-2010, 02:44 PM	#2
pdiehm MVP OVR: 20 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Delaware Blog Entries: 36	Re: Dynasty Musings: NCAA 11 -- Assistance Needed would love it. But by doing this you are also opening up the door for a coaching progression...starting out as an assistant, moving to a coordinator, then moving to a head coach. I think Madden does this, where you can hire coaches based on their expertise.

08-06-2010, 02:47 PM	#3
cactusruss Pro OVR: 7 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	Re: Dynasty Musings: NCAA 11 -- Assistance Needed This is why I just let the CPU do all of my recruiting.

08-06-2010, 03:08 PM	#5
canes21 Hall Of Fame OVR: 41 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tennessee Blog Entries: 2	Re: Dynasty Musings: NCAA 11 -- Assistance Needed I'm going to be honest, I didn't read it. But I definitely think we need the ability to have a school budget for stadium renovations, new uniforms, coaches, etc. We should be able to hire coordinators, recruiters, trainers, etc. If I go cheap on my training staff, but have a good set of coordinators, it should show. Maybe my team on the field will play up to their potential, but when a player gets hurt, he gets back to normal a lot slower. The thing could be vice versa with bad coaches, but a good training staff. Also, we need to be able to hire recruiters. They're a big part of football and need to be in the game. If I am Miami, but hire terrible recruiters, I should not get a very good class, or one that is expected of me. But if I get top of the line recruiters at SMU, maybe I pull in a good recruiting class with some players that would have been afterthoughts with an average recruiter. Those additions also call for a coaching carousel like CH2k8. My thoughts on coaches in NCAA. __________________ “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.” ― Plato

08-06-2010, 03:13 PM	#6
rollinphat Rookie OVR: 5 Join Date: May 2003	Re: Dynasty Musings: NCAA 11 -- Assistance Needed Ed Orgeron was head coach at Ole Miss from 2005-2007. He was never an assistant coach there.

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08-06-2010, 04:04 PM	#7
TimLawNYC Rookie OVR: 5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York, New York	If EA did this, they'd make you pay extra to buy it; otherwise, they wouldn't make any extra money from their dumb "Recruiting Assist" microtransactions. But I agree that it would be a nice addition of depth for Dynasty mode.

08-06-2010, 04:33 PM	#8
tbach Rookie OVR: 6 Join Date: Jun 2009	I didn't like the discipline aspect from the older games so I wouldn't really want it back with the budget thing. The budget idea isn't bad but I don't want discipline and I don't see why academics should be there. I'm not the dean.