Open scoring?

[Vast]

Open scoring. What Do you guys think of this?
I've never heard of this before. I think I like it. It might prevent judges from missscoring.

Galaxy S3

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vast

Open scoring. What Do you guys think of this? I've never heard of this before. I think I like it. It might prevent judges from missscoring. Galaxy S3

Its ****ing horrible. It ruins the drama of the fight and causes fighters who are up late to run and play it safe. it will lead to more decision.s

[JayBee74]

It especially ruins the drama when the scoring is bad in the first place.

Another thing........ 40,000 screaming fans, 38,500 for Alvarez. A little intimidation factor there?

[Dos_Santos]

Not a fan but this isn't the fight to complain about it.

[N51_rob]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Its ****ing horrible. It ruins the drama of the fight and causes fighters who are up late to run and play it safe. it will lead to more decision.s

Could not have said it better myself.

[steelcityjames]

totally hate it!

[pietasterp]

Quote: Originally Posted by JayBee74

It especially ruins the drama when the scoring is bad in the first place. Another thing........ 40,000 screaming fans, 38,500 for Alvarez. A little intimidation factor there?

I think this is the issue for me, JayBee...I don't have a problem with it in theory, but the problem isn't open vs closed scoring, it's the accuracy / competency of the scoring that matters. If the scoring is dead-on, or at least within a margin that most would deem reasonable, then it probably doesn't much matter if it's open or not. If one guy is obviously winning all the rounds and the scores reflect that, in general the other corner realizes that and will gameplan accordingly (ditto for the other side).

But the actual execution of it has generally resulted in some pretty sub-optimal outcomes, i.e. the leading fighter getting on his bike the rest of the way or similar changes in tactics. My issue with this Canelo fight was that the scoring was so off, in my opinion, that it made the last 4 rounds irrelevant (since Trout would have needed a KO to win, and there was zero chance that was going to happen). I've seen completely open scoring with the scores announced at the end of every round, and it's sort of hit-or-miss. It's not clear that it changes the way the scores go, but it definitely saps the bout of that tension waiting for the judges' decisions...

The fact that there are decisions in boxing at all is a source of irritation for me...I mean, I know there's no better way (not advocating going back to the 1900's and 100+ rounds of bare-knuckle action), but when fights go to the cards it always seems like a bit of a failure or Achilles' heel in the sport because of the extreme subjectivity. Honestly, when fights go to decision, boxing is at that point not fundamentally different from figure skating, which I've always considered more of an exhibition than competition specifically because the results are entirely determined by judges, not by some objective happening on the field of play.

[JayBee74]

Quote: Originally Posted by pietasterp

But the actual execution of it has generally resulted in some pretty sub-optimal outcomes, i.e. the leading fighter getting on his bike the rest of the way or similar changes in tactics.

Praise shouldn't be heaped on Alvarez for his late/last round tactics. Remember how Sergio Martinez fought Chavez up until the last second? You didn't need any scorecard reveal to know that he was way ahead on the cards, but even after getting knocked down in the 12th he was furiously fighting back.