UFC 2009 Undisputed vs. Fight Night Round 4: Weigh-In

[acarrero]

I'm really looking fwd to FN4. The UFC game? Not so much. I'm not a big fan of glorified bouncers fighting in a cage for $10,000. Brock Lesner is a star now? Boxing is real, you can't come fro the WWF and compete in boxing, it's fought at an elite level, MMA fighters wouldn't make it in boxing, otherwise they'd be there, making lots more $. I'm half-kidding, UFC might be the fighting sport of the future, but you can't just ignore boxing's history and think that UFC has reached the same level. Not even close.

[Iadf]

i disagree acarrero's, i think mma/ufc will surpass boxing and i sorta think it already has on a popularity scale. i mean theres boxing in mma i've seen many ufc fights that looked like boxing matches but the beauty of it is that you have choices on whether to stay standing or take it to the ground. I see it as the future of professional fighting.

And you must be joking "MMA fighters wouldn't make it in boxing" its the opposite man lol tell that to George st. Pierre

[mountlaurel]

I've been waiting for this game and I think I played a UFC game since the era of Playstation 1 or PSX but that one was way unbelievable on it's gameplay.

UFC 2009 Undisputed will be released this year I think I do hope that it will surpass lots of expectation. MMA and UFC is now getting a big buzz on this Sports Industry big names are now rising and that's Brock.

I do not disregard FIght Night and I'm a fan of Manny Pacquiao but the gameplay for me is not realistic that I think UFC 2009 must do it well I will be waiting for UFC title in Xbox and cross finger for it's great gaming experience

[Acedeck]

Iadf-

Generally speaking MMA fighters wouldn't contend at the most elite levels of boxing due to the fact that it's only one facet of their sport. Boxers excel at that one facet. A fighter who's great at boxing in MMA and poor at the rest is a fighter who's going to find his way to the mat very quickly. MMA will never have the history of boxing, nor will it ever be as widely accepted as a true sport. MMA's popularity is through the roof, you're right. So is the WWE, so popularity isn't the issue here. MMA is too barbaric for it to ever truly be considered a sport. Popularity is one thing, but being the headline on Sportscenter is a whole different story. Think about it. Do you seriously think there's going to be a badass in UFC who people would rank up there with Ali? No. No matter how much someone dominates UFC, he's going to just be a barbaric animal who's really good at cagefighting. That's how the public will see it.

People may be into the MMA thing right now, partially based on the fact that boxing is in a down time at the moment. I don't see the MMA trend continuing much more than five or ten years though. It's caught on about as much as it's going to. You have two types of people: 1) the type of people who want to watch cagefighting. 2) the people who don't. Type 1 people are already watching it. Unfortunately, you'll never convince type 2 people that cagefighting is a legitimate sport or that it's better than boxing.

[MC Fatigue]

Quote: Originally Posted by acarrero

I'm really looking fwd to FN4. The UFC game? Not so much. I'm not a big fan of glorified bouncers fighting in a cage for $10,000. Brock Lesner is a star now? Boxing is real, you can't come fro the WWF and compete in boxing, it's fought at an elite level, MMA fighters wouldn't make it in boxing, otherwise they'd be there, making lots more $. I'm half-kidding, UFC might be the fighting sport of the future, but you can't just ignore boxing's history and think that UFC has reached the same level. Not even close.

Boxing is "real"?

I'm sorry - but that's just nonsense. As if MMA isn't "real"? MMA fighters would be in boxing if they could make it? Did you ever thing that maybe... just maybe... they prefer MMA and the fact that it's a multidimensional sport that encompasses all aspects of fighting instead of just one?

It's not like any boxer can just go into the MMA ring and win. I don't see why you somehow think that boxers are superior to MMA fighters in any way. It's a different sport.

Boxing is one aspect of fighting. You use your hands and you punch. There's no ground game, there's no kicking, clinches are broken up, etc.

MMA encompasses every aspect - punching, kicking, throwing, grappling... It's the complete package and it's every bit as hard as your precious "real" boxing.

[Writer's Block]

I always find these arguments kinda pointless as they tend to just go around in circles. Personally, I'm more of a boxing man myself, but I do enjoy MMA. I find it offensive when boxing fans say MMA takes no skill (I usually just show them a video of Fedor and they change their mind pretty quickly). However, it's also annoying when MMA repeatedly state that boxing is one-dimensional. There's plently of different styles involved in boxing - Floyd Mayweather fights nothing like Antonio Margarito for instance.

As for the games, I'm looking forward to both games and I'll be buying them both.

[allBthere]

Quote: Originally Posted by Timmay

Boxing is "real"? I'm sorry - but that's just nonsense. As if MMA isn't "real"? MMA fighters would be in boxing if they could make it? Did you ever thing that maybe... just maybe... they prefer MMA and the fact that it's a multidimensional sport that encompasses all aspects of fighting instead of just one? It's not like any boxer can just go into the MMA ring and win. I don't see why you somehow think that boxers are superior to MMA fighters in any way. It's a different sport. Boxing is one aspect of fighting. You use your hands and you punch. There's no ground game, there's no kicking, clinches are broken up, etc. MMA encompasses every aspect - punching, kicking, throwing, grappling... It's the complete package and it's every bit as hard as your precious "real" boxing.

I love both sports, and would say neither one is 'real fighting'. Fighting, lets say for your life, is scary and violent and life-changing. there are no arm-bars, there is no composure really - thre is ripping someone's eye out, bites to the throat as hard as you can, squeezing nut sacks, stomping on heads, and using whatever you can in your environement.
These are both sports without question, and I am a supporter of both, they both have a place and I agree w/ the boxing guy in that video that mma will not 'cause' boxing to fail, I also disagree w/ rogan about there being no 'new stars' for boxing.

Another thing I've found is that I'll choose a good boxing match over a mma fight recently. The last Berto fight was phenomenal against collazo, as was the ademek(sp?) fight. I also took a breat from the affliction fights to watch Mosley fight Margarito in its entirety

[MC Fatigue]

Quote: Originally Posted by Writer's Block

. However, it's also annoying when MMA repeatedly state that boxing is one-dimensional. There's plently of different styles involved in boxing - Floyd Mayweather fights nothing like Antonio Margarito for instance.

I don't think one-dimensional has anything to do with styles.

What people mean by one-dimensional is that it's one aspect of fighting. You throw with your fists, obviously people have different styles of defense, attacking, how they throw, when they throw, how they stand, etc, etc - but when it comes down to it it's the hands that do all the damage.

I don't think anyone means any disrespect from that - they just mean that in MMA it's multi-dimensional in that you don't just throw with your fists - you've got kicking, take downs, ground game, etc - boxing is focused on one form of attack - the punch.

I could be wrong with that, but I don't really think people mean one-dimensional in terms of different styles. They just mean it in that you ultimately only have one choice of attack - the punch; but certainly everyone has a different style in terms of how they use that attack.