I Have a Dream

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

(Assuming you count Milwaukee in Green Bay's market).

Why would you do that?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

huh. for some reason i envisioned a mass exodus out of ohio like dropping an ice cube in a warm soda. guess it isn't that bad.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

But some of those metro areas have a lot of empty space in between.

Boston to Manchester

Cleveland to Akron

Columbus to Chillicothe

Ah, that site messed up. They actually were using Combined Statistical Areas (CSAs) not Metropolitan Statistical Areas (MSAs)

MSAs are a lot better indicator. The first thing I think of when someone mentions CSAs is the "San Angeles" area from Demolition Man- places that might be all one location in 50 years but not yet. I should have known when they put Baltimore and DC together when they are very distinct and have about 30 miles of mostly green space (federal facilities like military bases and parks) between them.

Try this on for size:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tistical_areas

Rank	Metropolitan Statistical Area	2011 Estimate	2010 Census	Change	Combined Statistical Area
1	New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA MSA	19,015,900	18,897,109	+0.63%	New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA
2	Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA	12,944,801	12,828,837	+0.90%	Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA
3	Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI MSA	9,504,753	9,461,105	+0.46%	Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA
4	Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA	6,526,548	6,371,773	+2.43%	Dallas-Fort Worth, TX CSA
5	Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX MSA	6,086,538	5,946,800	+2.35%	Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX CSA
6	Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA	5,992,414	5,965,343	+0.45%	Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA
7	Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA	5,703,948	5,582,170	+2.18%	Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA
8	Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL MSA	5,670,125	5,564,635	+1.90%
9	Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA MSA	5,359,205	5,268,860	+1.71%	Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL CSA
10	Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH MSA	4,591,112	4,552,402	+0.85%	Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH CSA
11	San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA	4,391,037	4,335,391	+1.28%	San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
12	Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA	4,304,997	4,224,851	+1.90%	Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA
13	Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI MSA	4,285,832	4,296,250	−0.24%	Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI CSA
14	Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale, AZ MSA	4,263,236	4,192,887	+1.68%
15	Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MSA	3,500,026	3,439,809	+1.75%	Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA CSA
16	Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI MSA	3,318,486	3,279,833	+1.18%	Minneapolis-St. Paul-St. Cloud, MN-WI CSA
17	San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA	3,140,069	3,095,313	+1.45%
18	Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA	2,824,724	2,783,243	+1.49%
19	St. Louis, MO-IL MSA	2,817,355	2,812,896	+0.16%	St. Louis-St. Charles-Farmington, MO-IL CSA
20	Baltimore-Towson, MD MSA	2,729,110	2,710,489	+0.69%	Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA
21	Denver-Aurora-Broomfield, CO MSA	2,599,504	2,543,482	+2.20%	Denver-Aurora-Boulder, CO CSA
22	Pittsburgh, PA MSA	2,359,746	2,356,285	+0.15%	Pittsburgh-New Castle, PA CSA
23	Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA MSA	2,262,605	2,226,009	+1.64%
24	San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX MSA	2,194,927	2,142,508	+2.45%
25	Sacramento–Arden-Arcade–Roseville, CA MSA	2,176,235	2,149,127	+1.26%	Sacramento–Arden-Arcade–Yuba City, CA-NV CSA
26	Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA	2,171,360	2,134,411	+1.73%	Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach, FL CSA
27	Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN MSA	2,138,038	2,130,151	+0.37%	Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, OH-KY-IN CSA
28	Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH MSA	2,068,283	2,077,240	−0.43%	Cleveland-Akron-Elyria, OH CSA
29	Kansas City, MO-KS MSA	2,052,676	2,035,334	+0.85%	Kansas City-Overland Park-Kansas City, MO-KS CSA
30	Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA	1,969,975	1,951,269	+0.96%	Las Vegas-Paradise-Pahrump, NV CSA
31	San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA	1,865,450	1,836,911	+1.55%	San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
32	Columbus, OH MSA	1,858,464	1,836,536	+1.19%	Columbus-Marion-Chillicothe, OH CSA
33	Charlotte-Gastonia-Rock Hill, NC-SC MSA	1,795,472	1,758,038	+2.13%	Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury, NC-SC CSA
34	Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos, TX MSA	1,783,519	1,716,289	+3.92%	Austin-Round Rock-Marble Falls, TX CSA
35	Indianapolis-Carmel, IN MSA	1,778,568	1,756,241	+1.27%	Indianapolis-Anderson-Columbus, IN CSA
36	Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC MSA	1,679,894	1,671,683	+0.49%
37	Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro–Franklin, TN MSA	1,617,142	1,589,934	+1.71%	Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro–Columbia, TN CSA
38	Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA MSA	1,600,224	1,600,852	−0.04%	Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH CSA
39	Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI MSA	1,562,216	1,555,908	+0.41%	Milwaukee-Racine-Waukesha, WI CSA
40	Jacksonville, FL MSA	1,360,251	1,345,596	+1.09%
41	Memphis, TN-MS-AR MSA	1,325,605	1,316,100	+0.72%
42	Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN MSA	1,294,849	1,283,566	+0.88%	Louisville/Jefferson County–Elizabethtown–Scottsburg, KY-IN CSA
43	Oklahoma City, OK MSA	1,278,053	1,252,987	+2.00%	Oklahoma City-Shawnee, OK CSA
44	Richmond, VA MSA	1,269,380	1,258,251	+0.88%
45	Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT MSA	1,213,255	1,212,381	+0.07%	Hartford-West Hartford-Willimantic, CT CSA
46	New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA MSA	1,191,089	1,167,764	+2.00%	New Orleans-Metairie-Bogalusa, LA CSA
47	Raleigh-Cary, NC MSA	1,163,515	1,130,490	+2.92%	Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC CSA
48	Salt Lake City, UT MSA	1,145,905	1,124,197	+1.93%	Salt Lake City-Ogden-Clearfield, UT CSA
49	Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY MSA	1,134,039	1,135,509	−0.13%	Buffalo-Niagara-Cattaraugus, NY CSA
50	Birmingham-Hoover, AL MSA	1,132,264	1,128,047	+0.37%	Birmingham-Hoover-Cullman, AL CSA

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, now I have a different dream

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Okay, now I have a different dream

Does it involve Halle Berry being triplets? I had that one and lay full claim to it.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Does it involve Halle Berry being triplets? I had that one and lay full claim to it.

Can I adopt this dream?

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Why would you do that?

Packers games are actually divided into "Green Bay" games and "Milwaukee" games. Milwaukee season ticket holders get tickets to, if I'm not mistaken, four of the regular season home games and two of the preseason. Green Bay season ticket holders get the other four/two.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Originally Posted by Grover

Can I adopt this dream?

I will allow it, but under the condition that you understand full and well that you are getting the sloppy seconds.