Gunfire reported at National Holocaust Museum.....

[RainMaker]

Kind of makes those who were complaining about the DHS report on right-wing extremists look silly now.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Samdari

MBBF listed it among his hate crimes. That's all I disagreed with.



Such celebration is perfectly legal, if in bad taste, no?



This is easy. I think a mosque near where the two towers were is a great idea, right next to a church and a synagogue. Are you seriously suggesting that a mosque is a symbol celebrating terrorism and death?

As for the other, have you been to OKC? The number of gun shops with white supremacist literature prominently on display probably numbers in the dozens. This one has been done.

Way to reframe the question to meet your needs. We didn't say is it okay to have a gun store in Oklahoma city. And is it all right if there's a mosque near the twin towers site (as long as there's a church and temple too).

And we're not talking about legalities. Would it be legal for the pro-life group to do it? Yes. Is it borderline batshit fucking insane? Yes. Does it celebrate the violence and send a message of encouragement to other wackos to do the same thing? Yes. Should the group be called on it and be made subject to public outrage over it? Yes.

[panerd]

Lets rename Columbine High School "2nd Amendment Secondary School", lets put up a homage to Tojo and Yamamoto at Pearl Harbor, lets put up a KKK museum next to the Lorraine Motel. Obviously these are all jackass ideas but the anti-abortion group is so pompous and out of touch that they don't see a problem with putting a museum up at a facility that was run by a doctor who was murdered by one of their followers. It's their cause or else. And to me this is no worse than radical Islamist terrorists. It really isn't.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Kind of makes those who were complaining about the DHS report on right-wing extremists look silly now.

Actually it doesn't. I was one of the people outraged that my Bob Barr bumper stickers were considered to be "extreme" by the think tank employed by the Missouri Highway Patrol. I am not an asshole that would kill a doctor or go shoot random people at a holocaust museum so why should I be linked with scum like this because of a political cause?

[panerd]

FBI: Child porn on accused museum shooter computer | ksdk.com | St. Louis, MO

1. Is this really that big of a deal next to murdering someone? Are they scared the a life sentence with no parole for 25 years is going to be somehow beat by a 113 year old? Is this worth the time/money?

2. Are they somehow hinting that being a pedophile would cause one to have a white supremacist type crime shooting? Because I would think pedophiles are the type of people you don't want around kids, and I guess sometimes (rarely) the type of person who may murder a child to cover up a crime, but they generally aren't going on hate filled shooting sprees in anything I have come across.

3. Or is this just a way to embarrass the asshole more? Hopefully this is it and if so I am perfectly fine with it. Just please don't also waste the money on part #1 just to be politically correct

[RainMaker]

It could just be research for behavorial analysis. Getting inside the heads of guys like this helps them in the future. Not much different than when we interview and document serial killers for help down the road. I have no problem with it.

[lighthousekeeper]

This is why I take detailed notes on anything posted by JiMGA

[fantom1979]

Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

This is why I take detailed notes on anything posted by JiMGA

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Way to reframe the question to meet your needs. We didn't say is it okay to have a gun store in Oklahoma city. And is it all right if there's a mosque near the twin towers site (as long as there's a church and temple too).

And we're not talking about legalities. Would it be legal for the pro-life group to do it? Yes. Is it borderline batshit fucking insane? Yes. Does it celebrate the violence and send a message of encouragement to other wackos to do the same thing? Yes. Should the group be called on it and be made subject to public outrage over it? Yes.

How did I reframe the question? You asked if it was ok to put up a mosque near the two towers sight, or a gun shop with white supremacist literature in OKC. I simply answered them ("yes", and "there are already dozens").

I guess we just differ in that I actually celebrate everyone's right to peacefully express their views, even if they are unpopular. Putting up a sign, or a building, is inherently nonviolent - as long as the people holding the sign or in the building let others go merrily along their way. If the content of the sign or building or whatever provokes a violent response, the fault lies with the one responding violently, not the one peacefully expressing views, even ones that most people consider reprehensible.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by panerd

1. Is this really that big of a deal next to murdering someone? Are they scared the a life sentence with no parole for 25 years is going to be somehow beat by a 113 year old? Is this worth the time/money?

It may increase the chances that he gets bludgeoned to death by a fellow inmate. What a shame that would be............

[Sgran]

I think I've asked this before, but I don't remember getting an answer: do we have a solid definition for what constitutes child porn? I mean, are we talking about 17-year old chicks, incest manga comics or Polaroid pictures of clearly pre-pube kids? I can't remember ever getting details on this. Not that any of it is kosher, but it reminds me of the extremely loose definitions of alcoholism where I'm hard-pressed to name anyone I know who isn't alcoholic.

[Wolfpack]

Originally Posted by Sgran

Not that any of it is kosher, but it reminds me of the extremely loose definitions of alcoholism where I'm hard-pressed to name anyone I know who isn't alcoholic.

Speaking of things controversial, is it true there's a marijuana problem here in Vietnam?

No! It's not a problem. Everybody has it.