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Fight Night Round 4 vs. UFC 2009 Undisputed: The Showdown

Boxing became a modern Olympic sport in 1904. The first televised UFC event was in 1993. Their origins can't be argued, but their current popularity certainly can be.

UFC has overshadowed boxing in recent years, creating stars like Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell. Dana White also lured Brock Lesnar into the fold, a fighter who has now become one of the most talked about UFC combatants.

Boxing was once elevated by its heavyweight division, lead by boxers such as Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield. Now boxing relies on its strong welterweight and middleweight divisions. Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Kelly Pavlik are young and exciting fighters, but no one knows if they will be able to sustain the entire sport.

Fans will argue each sport’s entertainment value, equity, relevancy and history until the cows come home. It’s impossible to say which side is correct in almost every sense.

But now at least we have the videogames to judge. UFC 2009 Undisputed was released on May 15 and Fight Night Round 4 on June 25. Let’s get ready to rumble.


Fight Night Round 4 is ready to take on UFC 2009 Undisputed.

Presentation


The soundtracks cater to their audiences, and the menus are easy to navigate. The commentary is well done in both games. UFC does offer more in the way of hyping up the fights while FNR4 has entrances and ring music.

This one is a tie.

10-10

Online


Every game has problems with online quitters -- both of these games fit the bill. However, they both translate to the online arena well enough and neither has serious lag issues. FNR4 offers more non-gameplay-related options, such as Boxer Share and some upcoming DLC. It also has championship belts that you can challenge for (depending on your rank). UFC has the usual leaderboards and a nice scouting report of you and your opponent.

Still, FNR4 takes round 2 because of the more in-depth choices it gives you.

10-9 Fight Night Round 4

Gameplay


Neither game is perfect, but both games do a swell job of representing their respective sports. In this case, the fans will decide which one they like better because they both have very different gameplay styles.

This round is a tie.

10-10

Graphics


FNR4 sports the better player models; UFC has the better faces. The tiebreaker is the ringside graphics. UFC's arenas all look similar, while FNR4 has multiple venues that each have a different look.

Fight Night takes this round.

10-9 Fight Night Round 4

 


UFC 2009 Undisputed has to pick it up in the late rounds or risk a blowout.

Career Mode


The highlights of each career mode are being in the ring or Octagon. Still, you must spend time training, which is why FNR4 has the advantage. I say that because the training is tough in both games, but you can skip it in FNR4. On top of that, the game doesn't bog you down with useless things like cred. It also offers multiple titles and the ability to move up weight classes. While UFC’s career mode is also solid, there is definite room for improvement.

Fight Night takes another round.

10-9 Fight Night Round 4
Learning Curve


This round goes to the game that does a better job teaching you how to play -- rather than simply choosing the game that is easier to get into. Both games have training modes that teach you the basics (and then some). Teddy Atlas does a good job teaching you the facets of the game in a gym ripped straight from Rocky III. The UFC training arena doesn’t have the same charm, but when you consider all the different fight styles, you realize that there is ton to learn in Undisputed, and the game does a good job teaching you everything you will need to know.

This is a tight one, but I’ll give it to UFC.

10-9 UFC 2009 Undisputed

Depth of Gameplay


There are plenty of tricks to both games. FNR4 is no slouch here, but the nature of MMA gives it a huge advantage.

This is a knockdown round for UFC.

10-8 UFC 2009 Undisputed

Staying Power


This round is all about prognostication. UFC gives you a good amount of options when it comes to creating fighters, but FNR4’s Boxer Share allows you to create just about anybody you want. There is also the Fight Night Round 4 store that promises new boxers.

With a new game probably on the horizon for UFC, and the supposed lack of DLC coming in the future, FNR4 gets a knockdown here.

10-8 Fight Night Round 4


Time for Fight Night fans to shake a bit...this fight is going to be extremely close.

Create-a-Fighter


UFC sports many customization options. FNR4 has that element and Boxer Share. While Boxer Share doesn’t always work right, it’s an interesting avenue to take. Plus, boxing allows for more colorful characters -- you can customize gloves and boots along with your ring shorts.

This round goes to Fight Night.

10-9 Fight Night Round 4

Authenticity


Boxing is shown across many different platforms, while UFC is one distinct organization. Fight Night Round 4 did the best they could with what they have, but UFC 2009’s commentary, pre-fight analysis, referees and ring girls are pulled straight from a UFC PPV.

Give this round to UFC.

10-9 UFC 2009 Undisputed

With every round in the books, it’s time to do the math and announce the winner.

And the winner is…

96-94 Fight Night Round 4

It’s only July and it’s already clear that these two titles will be at the top of their class at the end of the year -- both titles are just that good.

But at the end of the day, it's hard to defeat the reigning champ. Either way, it's a testament to the quality of UFC 2009 Undisputed that the final score was this close. And the great thing about this matchup is that there will certainly be rematches in the future (it's just too much of a money-making matchup for there not to be multiple encounters).

In the meantime, let us congratulate the champ and give Fight Night Round 4 the recognition it deserves.


Member Comments
# 1 Jukeman @ 07/08/09 02:17 PM
Nice read, I agree on everything
 
# 2 SHO @ 07/08/09 02:35 PM
I don't understand how UFC takes a knockdown because of a prediction.....
 
# 3 acarrero @ 07/08/09 03:23 PM
Not sure about that knockdown round for UFC on "Gameplay Depth". Maybe a 10-9.

UFC has both boxing and grappling/wrestling, but the depth of the boxing action is much greater in FN4. And while I haven't played UFC much outside of the demo, I doubt that it incorporates the strategy you have in FN with the corner games and how damage, stamina, and health are considered. Is there more variety as to how you can win a game in UFC? You can win by punching, kneeing, holds, etc., but in FN4 you can win by working the body, scoring a counter-punch KO, trying to steal rounds, pounding a cut for a stoppage, etc. It's the "sweet science", and it is a science which has more depth than any one single aspect of UFC. I would still give UFC the round, but only 10-9 I think it's a much closer round than one would think.
 
# 4 SHO @ 07/08/09 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by acarrero
Not sure about that knockdown round for UFC on "Gameplay Depth". Maybe a 10-9.

UFC has both boxing and grappling/wrestling, but the depth of the boxing action is much greater in FN4. And while I haven't played UFC much outside of the demo, I doubt that it incorporates the strategy you have in FN with the corner games and how damage, stamina, and health are considered. Is there more variety as to how you can win a game in UFC? You can win by punching, kneeing, holds, etc., but in FN4 you can win by working the body, scoring a counter-punch KO, trying to steal rounds, pounding a cut for a stoppage, etc. It's the "sweet science", and it is a science which has more depth than any one single aspect of UFC. I would still give UFC the round, but only 10-9 I think it's a much closer round than one would think.
You can do the exact same thing in UFC. Your point is moot. There is plenty depth in the UFC game because of how many different styles and the ground game alone is chess-like. The only that you can't do in UFC is the Fight Night cornerman mini-game.

10-8 UFC is a fair score.
 
# 5 allBthere @ 07/08/09 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCreep
I just go with whatever game gets the most spin in my xbox. So I'll give the winner to FN4, because ever since I purchased FN, UFC has been collecting dust.

UFCs a pretty good game, but FN legacy mode is more dynamic with randomly generated AI boxers and CAB imports, so your career is different every single time.

UFC career mode has the same exact fighters in every career you start and no CAB imports, that killed it for me right there.
you make some good points about career...but I'm the opposite of you, I bought fn4, did a career, saw the ufc box and decided to play some and it hasn't left since. It's just waaaaay more fun, strategic, visceral, and satisfying. The strikes have intent to injure, I'll still wince occasionally when I get rocked, and online I'll jump up off the couch for various reasons including getting out of a submission frantically, scoring a ko, waiting for the judges.

the UFC captures the sport and the brutality much better - and I'd like to make sure it's understood my points are made by someone who enjoys watching both on TV equally. I love a good boxing match, and love me some good UFC, my post history shows this to be true.

The boxing in fn is stuck in the mud...they really need to get rid of that crappy counter system (ufc has it but doesn't make a 'sub-game' around it) and re-animate pretty much everything.

There are a few things it does better in the career (not the minigames!) but they aren't as impactful as I originally thought. photo game face and especially BoxerSHare are effing AWESOME! and I hope Yukes steals that stuff and puts it in their game.

All in all I've been thrilled with my UFC game, and the longer I have FN4, the more I kind of think I should have rented it. I think it's highly overrated accross the board. For me it's a 7.5max (which is still good) Here's hoping they make the punches matter the next time around. For me the gameplay isn't even close, UFC simply on a different (higher) level.
 
# 6 statum71 @ 07/08/09 09:00 PM
My vote's for Fight Night........

I really like UFC. But boxer share and DLC are gonna keep Fight Night playable for a long, long time in my house.

I'm already up ot 87 fighters!!!! And just WAITING for a good Holyfield to show up.
 
# 7 T-villesFinest74 @ 07/08/09 09:37 PM
My vote also goes to FNR4

I liked both games but for me the career mode in UFC was to short and the one in FNR4 seamed alot longer to me. But like Richard said at the end of the year both games will be at the top of there sport. I want to see if UFC can stay there when EA puts it MMA title out. Guess we will have to wait and see. Richard this was a great read. Good job
 
# 8 SHO @ 07/08/09 09:40 PM
I wonder why this wasn't posted in the MMA forum as well....
 
# 9 RoyalBoyle78 @ 07/08/09 10:37 PM
sorry, dumb comparison, these games are total different sports, it's like comparing golf to football.
 
# 10 teambayern @ 07/08/09 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FootballForever
sorry, dumb comparison, these games are total different sports, it's like comparing golf to football.
Maybe if you're an aficionado of one or the other, but for a casual fan like me it's closer to comparing football to rugby. Similar skillsets and goals, just different rules and styles.

For me and I'd bet many others, these two games were considered side by side as rivals for our hard-earned $60.
 
# 11 CeltBhoy33 @ 07/09/09 12:37 AM
Disagree Boxing has become a dead sport get over it let MMA in. I have both and I enjoy UFC undisputed a lot more.
 
# 12 T-villesFinest74 @ 07/09/09 08:23 AM
Markees007 how can you call boxing a dead sport when boxing has the highest ppv order in the world in a single night. MMA is a great sport and I like them both. Each has its ups and downs but there is alot more money to be made in boxing than there is in MMA and for that reason a lone boxing is the better sport than MMA. Hands down.
 
# 13 Darxide @ 07/09/09 09:50 AM
The stand up in UFC is too simplistic to give it a 10-8 in gameplay. Otherwise, i agree with the article mostly. UFC's career mode isn't good enough to interest me in playing through it again. I couldn't care any less about online mode in either game. Fight Night's superior physics and mechanics and it's career mode make it a more enjoyable game for me. UFC certainly did a good job of holding me over, and I'm sure UFC 2010 will be stellar.
 
# 14 thelasthurtknee @ 07/09/09 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FootballForever
sorry, dumb comparison, these games are total different sports, it's like comparing golf to football.
golf to football? well since the gym i train at has a pro boxing coach that works with us as much as the other trainers i would say your comment was terrible. when i played college football i never saw a golf coach out there.
 
# 15 thelasthurtknee @ 07/09/09 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by T-villesFinest74
Markees007 how can you call boxing a dead sport when boxing has the highest ppv order in the world in a single night. MMA is a great sport and I like them both. Each has its ups and downs but there is alot more money to be made in boxing than there is in MMA and for that reason a lone boxing is the better sport than MMA. Hands down.
the amount of money doing it makes it better? lol. ok.
 
# 16 parker002 @ 07/09/09 03:24 PM
I think the best comparison that can be made for Boxing vs. MMA is open-wheel/Formula 1/Indy racing vs. NASCAR.

Boxing is the older, more-refined sport. MMA is rougher, edgier, and puts on a higher-octane show. Boxing is FAR more popular in the rest of the world like Formula 1, while MMA fans in the US are rabid, just like NASCAR fans.
 
# 17 Swanison @ 07/11/09 07:49 AM
mma vs boxing is no where near the same has football vs golf. I understand where your coming from but these two fighting games can easily be compared.

FNR4 easily wins. FNR3 vs UFC Undisputed is a better matchup. FNR3 was the first boxing game on next gen with good gameplay and lots of great ideas but not living up to full potential while UFC Undiputed was the first MMA game with good gameplay and lots of great ideas but not living up to full potential. FNR4 is way to advanced for undisputed going deeper in every category. inside out game, length and reach vs short and powerful, corner game, real physics, sig boxer styles, smart AI, legacy mode, online world championship, counter punching, strategic boxing, authentic arenas and stadiums vs a fun UFC game with the the main game modes that people would only like more if they liked mma more than boxing.
 
# 18 BlackRome @ 07/11/09 09:53 AM
There might be 2 boxers who average 100 punches around. It just doesn't happen in real boxing. Especially in the heavy weight division. I doubt many or any of you have actually been in a boxing ring. FN4 is nothing like real boxing. I would rather play Evander Holyfield boxing than this mess. This game takes the science of boxing and turns it into the intelligent design theory.

Just keep pushing the stick.
 
# 19 allBthere @ 07/11/09 10:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanison
mma vs boxing is no where near the same has football vs golf. I understand where your coming from but these two fighting games can easily be compared.

FNR4 easily wins. FNR3 vs UFC Undisputed is a better matchup. FNR3 was the first boxing game on next gen with good gameplay and lots of great ideas but not living up to full potential while UFC Undiputed was the first MMA game with good gameplay and lots of great ideas but not living up to full potential. FNR4 is way to advanced for undisputed going deeper in every category. inside out game, length and reach vs short and powerful, corner game, real physics, sig boxer styles, smart AI, legacy mode, online world championship, counter punching, strategic boxing, authentic arenas and stadiums vs a fun UFC game with the the main game modes that people would only like more if they liked mma more than boxing.
I can't agree with most of what you wrote. Counter-punching is Better in the UFC, UFC has authentic arenas where FN4 doesn't (some of them). Real physics the UFC has too. Smart AI, check. There is definetely and inside game ----it sounds like you haven't even played the UFC game. In the ring, the UFC is a better representation of the sport, and it's harder hitting and captures the brutality much better.
 
# 20 thelasthurtknee @ 07/11/09 12:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanison
mma vs boxing is no where near the same has football vs golf. I understand where your coming from but these two fighting games can easily be compared.

FNR4 easily wins. FNR3 vs UFC Undisputed is a better matchup. FNR3 was the first boxing game on next gen with good gameplay and lots of great ideas but not living up to full potential while UFC Undiputed was the first MMA game with good gameplay and lots of great ideas but not living up to full potential. FNR4 is way to advanced for undisputed going deeper in every category. inside out game, length and reach vs short and powerful, corner game, real physics, sig boxer styles, smart AI, legacy mode, online world championship, counter punching, strategic boxing, authentic arenas and stadiums vs a fun UFC game with the the main game modes that people would only like more if they liked mma more than boxing.
you dont sound like you know at all what your talking about. everything you just said UFC has also. plus add in ground game and specific punches kicks and ground tactics based on real styles. i think FN is smoother and looks a little better but not by much. if you would of made those points i would think you might have played UFC before. way out there on this.
 

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